follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-22-2012, 09:01 PM   #71
Visconti
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 05 STi
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 2,843
Thanks: 196
Thanked 3,188 Times in 1,197 Posts
Mentioned: 375 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Visconti
Quote:
Originally Posted by TyperRspec789 View Post
I was considering the proposal you made yesterday about the flexfuel kit. I'll probably have my turbo (Full Blown Stage 1) by February. Would this kit basically make it so that the mapping would adapt to 93oct to e85? Would it have an effect on boost levels on the fly? Flexfuel w/ FI just seems so complicated to me. PM or text me about the details if you need a tester or anything.
The P&L car I started mapping the other day has my full blown Flex Fuel Kit in it.

Fueling, and Boost is adjusted based on ethanol content.

Car also has a Normal and High Boost setting on-the-fly.

It has per gear boost control, traction control - it's badass

I spent about 5hrs setting up some really complicated stuff in the ECU.

-John
Visconti is offline  
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Visconti For This Useful Post:
bakerr6 (12-31-2012), Batman (03-11-2013), cobrabyte (12-22-2012), Jeff86 (12-23-2012), Kochinopride (12-22-2012), MindtheGap (01-03-2013), NorCalRider (04-01-2013), Supermassive (12-22-2012), tripjammer (02-12-2013), TyperRspec789 (12-31-2012)
Old 12-22-2012, 09:47 PM   #72
cobrabyte
Senior Member
 
cobrabyte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2002 WRX
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 710
Thanks: 978
Thanked 245 Times in 158 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
The P&L car I started mapping the other day has my full blown Flex Fuel Kit in it.

Fueling, and Boost is adjusted based on ethanol content.

Car also has a Normal and High Boost setting on-the-fly.

It has per gear boost control, traction control - it's badass

I spent about 5hrs setting up some really complicated stuff in the ECU.

-John
Oh my. This sounds glorious.
__________________
cobrabyte is offline  
Old 12-22-2012, 10:08 PM   #73
TyperRspec789
Version 2 Coming Soon...
 
TyperRspec789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: Turbo Argento FRS, Asphalt FRS
Location: Nottingham, MD
Posts: 677
Thanks: 124
Thanked 355 Times in 214 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
The P&L car I started mapping the other day has my full blown Flex Fuel Kit in it.

Fueling, and Boost is adjusted based on ethanol content.

Car also has a Normal and High Boost setting on-the-fly.

It has per gear boost control, traction control - it's badass

I spent about 5hrs setting up some really complicated stuff in the ECU.

-John
God, how much will this setup cost? This sounds, in all honesty, too good to be true. I'll give you a call when the kit is on, I feel like this will take at least 2 hours or more of dyno time.
__________________
TyperRspec789 is offline  
Old 12-22-2012, 10:49 PM   #74
Kochinopride
Senior Member
 
Kochinopride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 13 FR-S, 12 CLS AMG, 05 Lotus Elise
Location: Edgewater, NJ
Posts: 532
Thanks: 103
Thanked 143 Times in 103 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Had to put thanks to you Visconti. My car is running damned smooth! I love that I have Flex Fuel, running Octane 93 for now until the final mappings are in place!

The reason why I opted for Flex Fuel is because I don't want to run into a situation where I can't find an E85 station anywhere near, so I'll just load up Octane 93 without worrying how much fuel I have left or if I'll make it to a gas station... just one less thing to measure in time of crisis!

PS - THIS TUNE IS AWESOME! Looking forward to the full boost options!!
__________________
2005 Lotus Elise
2012 Mercedes Benz CLS AMG 6.3
2013 Scion FR-S
2011 Land Rover LR4
2013 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
Kochinopride is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Kochinopride For This Useful Post:
cobrabyte (12-23-2012), Supermassive (12-22-2012), Visconti (12-24-2012)
Old 12-30-2012, 04:00 PM   #75
Yruyur
Senior Member
 
Yruyur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,192
Thanks: 1,416
Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Would love to have one of the sensors. The dealer is replacing my second hpfa and the tech can install the flex sensor while messing with the fuel lines. Ill design my own bracket. Looking forward to flex fuel.

Sent from my flux capacitor using Taptalk
__________________
Yruyur is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 03:39 PM   #76
cobrabyte
Senior Member
 
cobrabyte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2002 WRX
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 710
Thanks: 978
Thanked 245 Times in 158 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
@Visconti: any updates on the FF sensor? I see that FA20Club released their FF setup today for $750. Quite spendy but I guess they're first to market.
__________________
cobrabyte is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 03:43 PM   #77
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,770
Thanks: 20,004
Thanked 8,346 Times in 4,361 Posts
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrabyte View Post
@Visconti: any updates on the FF sensor? I see that FA20Club released their FF setup today for $750. Quite spendy but I guess they're first to market.
The $750 includes the Flex fuel map so, $750- 300 for the map comes out to about $450. (estimated numbers). They are in line with what everyone was expecting (about $500 for the flex fuel kit).
Sportsguy83 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Sportsguy83 For This Useful Post:
cobrabyte (12-31-2012)
Old 12-31-2012, 03:55 PM   #78
cobrabyte
Senior Member
 
cobrabyte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2002 WRX
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 710
Thanks: 978
Thanked 245 Times in 158 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 View Post
The $750 includes the Flex fuel map so, $750- 300 for the map comes out to about $450. (estimated numbers). They are in line with what everyone was expecting (about $500 for the flex fuel kit).
Yeah, was budgeting $500. Really, really hoping that, if we've purchased the 93 and E85 maps, we won't have to pay for a combination map.
__________________
cobrabyte is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 03:56 PM   #79
Sportsguy83
I Love custom Turbo kits
 
Sportsguy83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,770
Thanks: 20,004
Thanked 8,346 Times in 4,361 Posts
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrabyte View Post
Yeah, was budgeting $500. Really, really hoping that, if we've purchased the 93 and E85 maps, we won't have to pay for a combination map.
That's a good question, and I think if you have both maps you should be set.
Sportsguy83 is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 05:19 PM   #80
Visconti
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 05 STi
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 2,843
Thanks: 196
Thanked 3,188 Times in 1,197 Posts
Mentioned: 375 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Visconti
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrabyte View Post
@Visconti: any updates on the FF sensor? I see that FA20Club released their FF setup today for $750. Quite spendy but I guess they're first to market.

The Flex Fuel configuration isn't going to be cheap.

What FA20 club is posting up isn't the best equipment. fyi.

Anyone willing to cut wires can do flex fuel.

Right now I'm working on a plug and play kit for both GTR and BRZ.

On top of that I'm also working on some new electronics that will allow me to provide a failsafe system. Going with the zentronixs system does not have a failsafe. If the sensor goes bad or gets unplugged the ecu will still think everything is OK and will see a 65% ethanol content reading. This could be bad if you really on pump.


Here are the fuel lines I'm using on the GTR..

I have similar lines for the BRZ/FRS



Here's some pics of this past weekend - Going through some of my new circuitry







I've been busy
Visconti is offline  
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Visconti For This Useful Post:
Allch Chcar (01-16-2013), bluecollarfrs (12-31-2012), cobrabyte (12-31-2012), Jeff86 (12-31-2012), LeavingNormal (12-31-2012), M1K3 (12-31-2012), MindtheGap (01-03-2013), NorCalRider (04-01-2013), Pete (01-07-2013), Sportsguy83 (12-31-2012), Supermassive (12-31-2012), tripjammer (02-12-2013)
Old 12-31-2012, 05:57 PM   #81
bakerr6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 raven black fr-s
Location: cincinnati, oh
Posts: 1,447
Thanks: 503
Thanked 443 Times in 305 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
The P&L car I started mapping the other day has my full blown Flex Fuel Kit in it.

Fueling, and Boost is adjusted based on ethanol content.

Car also has a Normal and High Boost setting on-the-fly.

It has per gear boost control, traction control - it's badass

I spent about 5hrs setting up some really complicated stuff in the ECU.

-John
You sir are a genius when it comes to tuning with ECUtek.
bakerr6 is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 07:06 PM   #82
Visconti
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 05 STi
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 2,843
Thanks: 196
Thanked 3,188 Times in 1,197 Posts
Mentioned: 375 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Visconti
Thanks
Visconti is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 07:12 PM   #83
OmarGC
My FR-S has 5 gears
 
OmarGC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: FRS/280z/Tundra
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,994
Thanks: 626
Thanked 1,065 Times in 572 Posts
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
lol nice sig John
__________________
Omar GC

2JZ - 6870 - stock block - 1000whp?

Instagram: 2jzus
OmarGC is offline  
Old 12-31-2012, 08:04 PM   #84
Visconti
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 05 STi
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 2,843
Thanks: 196
Thanked 3,188 Times in 1,197 Posts
Mentioned: 375 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Visconti
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmarGC View Post
lol nice sig John
Thanks
Visconti is offline  
 
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Tein Flex Coilover Jade 86 Brakes, Suspension, Chassis 43 06-15-2013 10:35 PM
Dynosty FR-S/BRZ Fuel System Upgrades! Deatschwerks DW65C Fuel Pump Dustin@Dynosty Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 3 08-21-2012 05:53 PM
Another FRS with Flex sidnacious Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 11 08-14-2012 11:32 AM
Tein Flex inside! Silverdub Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 31 07-22-2012 05:46 PM
Flex Fuel? VenomRush Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 12 01-15-2010 03:55 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.