Toyota and Subaru Officially Confirm Second Gen 86! (September 27, 2019) - Page 35 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mazeroni · 03-24-2020, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomRush

I found it really interesting the HP figure matches the 4cyl turbo supra HP. Even though it's still a Subaru-Toyota joint project, would they really use that bmw motor?

No.

The WRX has 268hp from the turbo variant of the FA20. Again, assuming there is even a shred of truth here, they would likely be working with the WRX motor, but they would have to re-pipe the turbo and make other changes to fit the current engine bay. If it comes out to be 255 or less, they probably did so for marketing purposes to create some division between Supra and 86. If they detuned it lower still and left it up to the aftermarket to find more power, I wouldn't be surprised.

scuzzy · 03-24-2020, 02:43 PM

https://jalopnik.com/details-of-six-...-86-1842473009

Keep it going...

R_E_L · 03-24-2020, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni

https://jalopnik.com/details-of-six-...-86-1842473009

As always, info is incredibly suspect. Also, anyone could make these assumptions based on normal release cadences of automakers. Also, they reference the "leaked" dealer presentation slide that has been floating around for awhile now. So yea...

Yeah there is nothing to substantiate the claim. As you said that photo has been around for a while and shows nothing more than the planned launch month. The power figures and details are just copy/pasted from the Motor1 article. Same ol' same ol'.

MJones_RB · 03-24-2020, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scuzzy

https://jalopnik.com/details-of-six-...-86-1842473009

Keep it going...

So it looks like the new name would be GR86 (Gazoo Racing), being a different platform and engine. I mean, if you believe any of this.

Hmm...

extrashaky · 03-24-2020, 03:37 PM

If the new one is named the GR86, will we pronounce that "Great-Six"?

Spuds · 03-24-2020, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky

If the new one is named the GR86, will we pronounce that "Great-Six"?

I will now!

mazeroni · 03-24-2020, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by R_E_L

Yeah there is nothing to substantiate the claim. As you said that photo has been around for a while and shows nothing more than the planned launch month. The power figures and details are just copy/pasted from the Motor1 article. Same ol' same ol'.

Yea, but the reason I didn't roll my eyes as much is that it is one of the less ridiculous rumors we have heard. We reached a point where it was just going to be an coupe version of the WRX/STI with a hybrid with a bent towards rally-fighting. Instead we are back to "yea, more or less the same design philosophy but a little faster and nicer inside" is refreshing. I think we should make that our expectations and just cross our fingers that it remains light and not much more expensive.

sunami88 · 03-24-2020, 03:40 PM

I saw someone online a while ago that called it "Great-Sex", and now I cringe every time I see it

R_E_L · 03-24-2020, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni

Yea, but the reason I didn't roll my eyes as much is that it is one of the less ridiculous rumors we have heard. We reached a point where it was just going to be an coupe version of the WRX/STI with a hybrid with a bent towards rally-fighting. Instead we are back to "yea, more or less the same design philosophy but a little faster and nicer inside" is refreshing. I think we should make that our expectations and just cross our fingers that it remains light and not much more expensive.

But what I'm saying is this is literally lifted from the Feb Motor 1 article, and that wasn't substantial either. The only info that had any merit was the release date. Their source never mentioned power numbers or interior improvements, they tacked that on. A quote from the original Motor 1 article:

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First up, the second-generation 86 that has been confirmed by Toyota and Subaru as another sports car tie-up is reportedly scheduled to come out in July 2021 and go on sale as a 2022MY. That’s all the info he has on the rear-wheel-drive coupe, but the latest intel suggests it’ll be sold as a “GR 86” with around 255 turbocharged horses and an improved interior with better materials.

As much as I want to believe nice things, the info Ichi and the Lexus guy from the supra forum received holds more weight if we're going off rumors IMO.

extrashaky · 03-24-2020, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky

If the new one is named the ****, will we pronounce that "Great-Six"?

The fuck? Why is this being censored?

Spuds · 03-24-2020, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky

The fuck? Why is this being censored?

It's a dirty, dirty word that's why!

Spuds · 03-24-2020, 04:44 PM

First new thread in the new section!

Edit, also a poll!

Yoshoobaroo · 03-24-2020, 04:54 PM

OH SHIT IT IS ON!

DarkPira7e · 03-24-2020, 05:00 PM

How do we check the brake pads?

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