Toyota GT 86 V/S BMW 120i, Mazda Roadster, VW Scirocco [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

[ESBjiujitsu]

searched and didnt see it anywhere! lots of great video footage of the comparisons! enjoy!


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8mF9vRsv7s"]Toyota GT 86 V/S BMW 120i, Mazda Roadster, VW Scirocco [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube[/ame]

[#87]

lol'd hard when I saw the 86 vs BMW in emergency lane change test.
Reminded me of this video from a while back

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBhiB_qH1KY"]Hyundai Sonata VS Honda Accord slalom test - YouTube[/ame]

[ichitaka05]

Thanks for the upload! Interesting vid

[Superhatch]

Wow great find!

This is a Toyota video I take it?

[trueno86power]

Great video, it's now clear that the 86 beat's the sh*t out of everyone :P

[phm14]

These types of comparisons, in general, are not really of much use for determining the potential a car has for performance driving. They are subjective at best. The critical characteristics to consider are the ones that are inherent in the design of the car. In other words, the things that would be difficult to change while maintaining certain peramiters of budget, and compromises such as "streetability". Factors like weight, CG, drive system (front, rear, all wheel drive), power to weight ratio and balance are all major factors affecting track performance, and are not easiliy altered while keeping the car streetable. Tests that claim they are measuring the "grip" of one car to the next are silly when tire/wheel setup alone plays such a huge role. Even a few PSI difference, and/or tire temps for a given tire will have major impact on the handling and feel of a car. The point here is to focus on the major design elements of the platform, not on performance tests influenced by tire/wheel/suspension elements that will likely be changed by the serious driver. These fundamental elements are what draws me to the 86. I don't have my car yet, but I do already have wheels here and tires due in Monday. I have test driven the 86, and the OEM tires were good choices to cut cost and make mpg #s, not for performance driving. Not that you can't have some fun on track with the stock setup, but you will murder those tires in short order pushing them past their limits.

[Laika]

Pretty interesting video despite the blatant Toyota bias. The MX5 typically performed just as well. I was surprised to see all that body roll from it though. That made it look about as sporty as a professional bowler.

[RaceR]

I love the 86 but this was a CRAP comparison video! Obviously biased so much towards the 86 that it smells bad.

Just to mention a couple of things:
1. They never mentioned what tires were on the cars.
2. GT86 with Primacy HP tires outcornering a boxter with performance tires? Will not happen. Something was messed up or staged.
3. In test "05 S-curve". There were no rules for the speed. Yet the other cars seemed to miss their ideal driving line. Would seem like the driver on purpose understeered, thus making the cars seem to handle worse and exit slower compared to the 86.
(If the cars were driven properly all of them would be driving the correct line, but the slower cars would have done the S-curve slower. Without knowing what tires they were on, the test would be irrelevant anyway)
4.Test "07 Cornering under braking" have the same issues as test "05 S-curve"

One thing got confirmed tough. Body roll seems to be great in the 86!
...but most people here already knew that..

[phm14]

Originally Posted by Laika

Pretty interesting video despite the blatant Toyota bias. The MX5 typically performed just as well. I was surprised to see all that body roll from it though. That made it look about as sporty as a professional bowler.

That was also a NC1 MX5. I built an '06 MX5 track toy, and could not ditch that crap suspension fast enough. It was widely criticized for being way too high/soft. The NC2 suspensions were improved. The newest the MX5 in the vid could be is '08.

[Carban]

LOL did toyota make this video?? despite the whole "biased" thing, this video was pretty cool and shows some cool stuff. i enjoyed it, thanks.

[RaceR]

Originally Posted by Carban

LOL did toyota make this video?? despite the whole "biased" thing, this video was pretty cool and shows some cool stuff. i enjoyed it, thanks.

Seems so...
First I was thinking.. That track looks familiar.. Blue 86.. and then watching to 2.40 in the video. "I just finished checking out a few other cars".. .. later on you see some of these cars.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXSRO8sgM-E"]Toyota GT 86 development and initial impressions [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube[/ame]

[Carban]

Originally Posted by RaceR

Seems so...
First I was thinking.. That track looks familiar.. Blue 86.. and then watching to 2.40 in the video. "I just finished checking out a few other cars".. .. later on you see some of these cars.

yup thats a sick video too...when i get mine im throwin those toyota emblems on!!!