All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[dpfarr]

If only RC-F came with a manual.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Looks are subjective. Why are people that think it is butt ugly not allowed to say so?

I don't see anyone saying or suggesting that...

We are not trying to tell others not to like it simply that we do not. That is not “hate” in any way shape or form it is an expression of our opinion.

Why are people who think there are some who hang out here solely to hate not allowed to say so?

To me it is still a conglomeration of conflicting lines and tacked on boy racer body kit parts and I will bloody well say that if I want.

Persecution complex? Again, nobody saying you can't!

At a certain point, though, do you wonder what you're doing here on a forum for a car that you know you aren't remotely interested in? I mean, I've joined forums for a number of cars I've thought I might be interested in over the years, but I don't hang out on them after I've decided they're not for me.

But sure, feel free to hang out and hate, I know it's an enjoyable pastime for some folks!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ZDan

I don't see anyone saying or suggesting that...

Why are people who think there are some who hang out here solely to hate not allowed to say so?


Persecution complex? Again, nobody saying you can't!

At a certain point, though, do you wonder what you're doing here on a forum for a car that you know you aren't remotely interested in? I mean, I've joined forums for a number of cars I've thought I might be interested in over the years, but I don't hang out on them after I've decided they're not for me.

But sure, feel free to hang out and hate, I know it's an enjoyable pastime for some folks!

There goes the hate word again.
It is very evident that if you don’t like the looks of the new ones you are not supposed to say anything. Only the people praising them are permitted to have an opinion
What do you mean why am I on this forum? It is about more than just the new version you know. Anybody not interested in the new ones should just go away? There are many that feel the same as I do but many simply won’t speak up because all of a sudden they are haters and wrong because they should like it.

[mazeroni]

I like the BRZ in bright colors. I like the 86 in darker colors. Hmmmm.


I would take the BRZ in white or red. I think the 86 in grey or blue.

[Cephas]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

To me it is still a conglomeration of conflicting lines and tacked on boy racer body kit parts and I will bloody well say that if I want.

Yes, we know, and you have, many many times. We get it. But can't you let the rest of us just have a good time without your poo-pooing?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ZDan

I don't see anyone saying or suggesting that...

Ugm, OK I'll say it, it's butt ugly.

I think @Tcoat's description is pretty accurate. The front of both BRZ/86 have lost all their uniqueness between them and in the marketplace as it is now just a me-too car, the side profile is ruined by the running board thing, which I guess would be useful if you were doing your 20's mobster impression, and the backend is generically painful.

Now, all that said, I'm sure it still drives great, and I'm glad the OEMs are continuing to support the platform. I don't hate the car, but its just not something I'm willing to drive because I don't like the looks. YMMV and that's fine. There are lots of cars people love I think are butt ugly (insert any Miata here).

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It is very evident that if you don’t like the looks of the new ones you are not supposed to say anything.

I don't think anyone said that.
But posting that you hate how it looks a few times per week on something
like 10 different threads does feel like a broken record sometimes.
It's your right though, sure.

Or maybe it's not an issue for folks who don't follow the forum
and just create the 15th new thread asking "HOW DO I SWAP AN
FA24 INTO A 1ST GEN TELL ME NOW" when they feel like it

FWIW, among my friends so many have already converted from "yuck,
the 2nd gen is so ugly" to "... you know what, it's actually pretty good".

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

I don't think anyone said that.
But posting that you hate how it looks a few times per week on something
like 10 different threads does feel like a broken record sometimes.
It's your right though, sure.

Or maybe it's not an issue for folks who don't follow the forum
and just create the 15th new thread asking "HOW DO I SWAP AN
FA24 INTO A 1ST GEN TELL ME NOW" when they feel like it

FWIW, among my friends so many have already converted from "yuck,
the 2nd gen is so ugly" to "... you know what, it's actually pretty good".

How's this for a controversial take: The first gen had weird head and tail lights that I disliked and the general styling was so generic that, combined with reports it was grossly underpowered, I didn't really notice them apart from the compact car crowd until I heard a more powerful second gen was coming and I started paying attention to the twins. I think the second gen styling is more unique and easily recognizable.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

How's this for a controversial take: The first gen had weird head and tail lights that I disliked and the general styling was so generic that, combined with reports it was grossly underpowered, I didn't really notice them part from the compact car crowd until I heard a more powerful second gen was coming and I started paying attention to the twins. I think the second gen styling is more unique and easily recognizable.

I sort of agree. More specifically I think the proportions of the 1st gen are very good but some of the detail work was weird (head/tail lights, mouth guards, fender vents). The 2nd gen keeps the good proportions and has more refined detail work IMO.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There goes the hate word again.
It is very evident that if you don’t like the looks of the new ones you are not supposed to say anything. Only the people praising them are permitted to have an opinion

Where are you pulling this from? No one that I know of is saying you aren't supposed to say anything. The hate word came up in this post that drew your ire, for no good reason as far as I can tell:

Originally Posted by WC-BRZ

Man what's with so much hate on the exterior design! IMO this car looks simply stunning the way it is...

He did not mention you or anyone else, but for some reason you took it personally! Why? If you don't "hate", he's not talking about you! If you *do* hate *the exterior design*, he's not saying you shouldn't speak! He's just saying he doesn't get it. I don't either. Of course you're free to express your opinion and no one has said you can't.

What do you mean why am I on this forum? It is about more than just the new version you know. Anybody not interested in the new ones should just go away?

I should have made it more clear but by "this forum" I meant *this* "All-New 2022 BRZ" sub-forum.

What I *meant* was exactly what I asked: "At a certain point, though, do you wonder what you're doing here on [the "All-New 2022 BRZ" sub-]forum for a car that you know you aren't remotely interested in?" I didn't say you should leave. Of course you're free to hate on the '22 BRZ here as often as you like. I will say that there are *tons* of cars over the years that have massively disappointed me (including gen 1 FT86), but I didn't go on and on about it in the forums dedicated to those cars for some reason. At least I don't think I did? Maybe I did a little bit...

There are many that feel the same as I do but many simply won’t speak up because all of a sudden they are haters and wrong because they should like it.

Like it or not, you have given the impression that you do indeed *hate* the design of the car. Nobody is saying you have to like it. No one is saying you aren't allowed to express your opinion.

You shouldn't take it as an assault on you personally when someone says they "don't get the hate"...

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[soundman98]

did tomy officially release their version of it, or is that just a tease?