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Old 06-08-2021, 02:19 PM   #645
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TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!

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That's what I picked up from the latest videos from the track. The sound sort of reminds me of what Lexus pumps into their cabins. More of a higher frequency sound that is unnatural.



However, I DO NOT believe Ken when he says it is all real. I doubt he has any idea whether the sound generator is on or not. Toyota probably set up the car and never briefed him on that feature. I suspect it is turned on in the videos.

Here is the new BMW EV sound for M cars for comparison


Honestly, if we must resort to synthetic sound on EVs, since the motors and geartrains are too quiet, I appreciate BMW’s effort they’re putting into this. They could have just thrown in a soundbyte from an ICE engine, or anything else low effort, but they actually took it seriously.

It reminds me of when the industry was pointing and laughing that BMW spent over a million dollars on the interior sounds and I-drive sound design in the early 2000s. Those sounds are still unchanged and after over a decade with my E90 3 series the bongs and blings are still a pleasant experience. In almost every other car I’ve driven they’re jarring at best and nails on a chalkboard at worst *cough GM cough*.
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Did they ever get around to playing the BMW sound in the vid?
I searched around in it, but all they ever did was yak about feckerfnoggin.
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Did they ever get around to playing the BMW sound in the vid?
I searched around in it, but all they ever did was yak about feckerfnoggin.
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GR 86 sound from outside the car accelerating (time stamp 0:46 - 0:56) for what it's worth...

Jumps to inside the cabin and it's definitely "enhanced" , I wonder if it's a soundaktor?
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Did they ever get around to playing the BMW sound in the vid?
I searched around in it, but all they ever did was yak about feckerfnoggin.
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So, in the end, they made engine noise. Ugm, OK.
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GR 86 sound from outside the car accelerating (time stamp 0:46 - 0:56) for what it's worth...

Jumps to inside the cabin and it's definitely "enhanced" , I wonder if it's a soundaktor?

They said it’s using the sound system speakers, not a separate one like VW’s soundaktor. They also said you can turn it off.
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Fake it till you make it!

With the bigger displacement and still high revving engine, its definitely got better potential for exhaust note depth.

Some of the cars shown at that recent show sounded GREAT.
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My understanding is the engine sound is not synthesised, approximately the 2 minute mark the question is asked.

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My understanding is the engine sound is not synthesised, approximately the 2 minute mark the question is asked.

Yup. Ken confirms the sound is "all natural." I assumed this meant no piping and no artificial noise coming from the speakers.
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Yup. Ken confirms the sound is "all natural." I assumed this meant no piping and no artificial noise coming from the speakers.
Yeah I took it to mean that.
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More questions about sound . . .

In this video at the 7:35 mark he talks about engine sound (anyone speak japanese?) the auto translate seems to infer the sound is generated but there is no radio in the car . . .
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is it me or the engine doesnt feel very revvy. feels like it has too heavy a flywheel....
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GR 86 sound from outside the car accelerating (time stamp 0:46 - 0:56) for what it's worth...

Jumps to inside the cabin and it's definitely "enhanced" , I wonder if it's a soundaktor?
Yup. The outside of the car is not that loud at all. Inside, it sounds like it has a modified exhaust. The synthesizer is 100% on.
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Yup. The outside of the car is not that loud at all. Inside, it sounds like it has a modified exhaust. The synthesizer is 100% on.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think you can tell from THAT outside shot as its still spooling up and its only the high RPM that the sound seems to come on in the cabin.

In fact just before the camera changes away from the outside it does seem like its getting a decent little sound workings its way up. In my opinion anyway.

Ken saying its all natural (and clearly knowing a lot about the car) is very confusing - particularly after being told by Hagerty that its not.
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