All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Dake

Yeah. I managed to do this quick and dirty overlay, and it's not that they smoothed away the wheel arches but that they raised the entire hood surface to the height of the original humps - and then added length to the nose ahead of the wheel. All of which makes it look less dynamic imo.

Its a valiant effort, BUT...
For a valid comparison you'd have to have pics taken from exactly the same height and distance with exactly the same focal length.

You can tell the pic of the current-gen is taken from a lower vantage point. You can see the near fender peak, but not the other side. On the pic of the new car you can see across to the fender pontoon on the other side. On the pic of the new car that opposite fender and that opposite side of the hood *appear* "higher". But we're really just looking from a different vantage point.

For sure the new car's hood/fender lines appear to be at the same height, maybe a bit lower, for sure lower at the current car's fender-bumps.

It'd be cool if someone could do one of those cool sliders where you could easily go back and forth - but I don't know how to do that.

I think you've done as good a job as could be done with these pics. We really need pics that are taken from exactly the same height and distance from the cars, pointing in exactly the same direction (preferably parallel to the ground and perpendicular to mid-wheelbase along length), with exactly the same camera and lenses.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by TheDonEffect

Hmm, anyone else notice no tow hook covers on the bumpers?

There are tow hook covers. 2 in the back and 1 at the very top left corner of the grille (looking from front).

[Dzmitry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They dropped the engine even further and used aluminum in the roof and front fenders as well as the hood. Although not listed they likely also dropped the floor pans down a tad more into the cassis but that is just a guess not a fact.
All in all a very nice bit of engineering to take the already very low COG down even further.

One of the video guys mentioned that a Subaru spokesman (whoever that may be, could be BS) said the COG is on par with some hypercars out there. Not something to go crazy over, I just think it's cool that a 30k car has a hypercar characterstic.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They dropped the engine even further and used aluminum in the roof and front fenders as well as the hood. Although not listed they likely also dropped the floor pans down a tad more into the cassis but that is just a guess not a fact.
All in all a very nice bit of engineering to take the already very low COG down even further.

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

One of the video guys mentioned that a Subaru spokesman (whoever that may be, could be BS) said the COG is on par with some hypercars out there. Not something to go crazy over, I just think it's cool that a 30k car has a hypercar characterstic.

I'm 99% sure that the lower c.g. is due to lowering the whole car 0.4 inches, which it *desperately* needed!

[HaXx]

@Tcoat are you going to trade in the hakone for a 2022?

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by ZDan

I'm 99% sure that the lower c.g. is due to lowering the whole car 0.4 inches, which it *desperately* needed!

I'm actually not clear on this. 2018 and before BRZ's are listed as 50.6" in height. 2019 and 2020 are listed as 52". The new 2022 is 51.6", claiming a 0.4" reduction vs. the current gen. Why the different height measurements for the current gen?
I measured my 2018 by placing a 4' level across the top of the roof humps and it came around 50 1/2". Is the shark fin antenna included in the height?

Edit: looks like 86's are listed as 50.6" through the 2020 model.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I'm actually not clear on this. 2018 and before BRZ's are listed as 50.6" in height. 2019 and 2020 are listed as 52". The new 2022 is 51.6", claiming a 0.4" reduction vs. the current gen. Why the different height measurements for the current gen?
I measured my 2018 by placing a 4' level across the top of the roof humps and it came around 50 1/2". Is the shark fin antenna included in the height?

Um, yeah, I guess height must include the sharkfin!

I still bet that the reportedly lower engine and lower c.g. height are the result of lowering the car on the suspension and not individually lowering different bits of car in the sprung chassis...

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

I'm actually not clear on this. 2018 and before BRZ's are listed as 50.6" in height. 2019 and 2020 are listed as 52". The new 2022 is 51.6", claiming a 0.4" reduction vs. the current gen. Why the different height measurements for the current gen?
I measured my 2018 by placing a 4' level across the top of the roof humps and it came around 50 1/2". Is the shark fin antenna included in the height?

Edit: looks like 86's are listed as 50.6" through the 2020 model.

I think it’s the fin. The original antenna wouldn’t be included in a height measurement, but I can see the fin being counted since it’s a rigid painted surface.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by HaXx

@Tcoat are you going to trade in the hakone for a 2022?

Not a hope in hell. Zero.

Originally Posted by ZDan

Um, yeah, I guess height must include the sharkfin!

I still bet that the reportedly lower engine and lower c.g. height are the result of lowering the car on the suspension and not individually lowering different bits of car in the sprung chassis...

They explain the lower COG. Dropped engine, aluminum roof, aluminum front fenders, lower driver position, and repositioned supsension.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by HaXx

@Tcoat are you going to trade in the hakone for a 2022?

I'm guessing you haven't read his posts on the subject of the Gen2 (which I pretty much agree with)...

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

One of the video guys mentioned that a Subaru spokesman (whoever that may be, could be BS) said the COG is on par with some hypercars out there. Not something to go crazy over, I just think it's cool that a 30k car has a hypercar characterstic.

But the most important hypercar metric is nowhere near the same!!
Its 0-60 is still gonna be somewhere around the 6 second range (faster than the current one which ranges between 6.2-7.4 depending on who measured it in what part of the world)

Thats not even luxury sports car numbers which is now under 4 seconds!

Subaru try to keep up!!!!

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They explain the lower COG. Dropped engine, aluminum roof, aluminum front fenders, lower driver position, and repositioned suspension.

Bolded points are consistent with simply lowering the car...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

One of the video guys mentioned that a Subaru spokesman (whoever that may be, could be BS) said the COG is on par with some hypercars out there. Not something to go crazy over, I just think it's cool that a 30k car has a hypercar characterstic.

It is right there in the Subaru press release!

Sitting low in the chassis, the Subaru BOXER’s unique design allows the BRZ to achieve a Center of Gravity (CoG) even lower than the previous BRZ and on par with exotic hyper-cars

Originally Posted by ZDan

I'm 99% sure that the lower c.g. is due to lowering the whole car 0.4 inches, which it *desperately* needed!

That indeed helped but they tell us specifically about the other things they did. It is not a mystery.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Bolded points are consistent with simply lowering the car...

Also consistent with simply placing the engine lower in the car. It is in black and white from an official source. This isn't eve a debatable point.

Yes they lowered the whole car but they also put the engine lower as well.

Sitting low in the chassis, the Subaru BOXER’s unique design allows the BRZ to achieve a Center of Gravity (CoG)