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agree on the type R stuff, fully race orientated arm of honda, if you guys in america could get the track bare bones cars like japan i think the awareness/persona of "type R" would be a whole lot diffident, and much more serious. |
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if TRD beefed up the motor like what was done to the type r the TRD would come out on top. However the Type-R even in fwd form still would had the advantage in my eyes, unless TRD touched the motor.
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CTR > 86.
I would be rolling a CTR instead of my current BRZ if Honda sold it here in the states. The great thing about the BRZ is that I don't have to worry about theft. (: |
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I would be purchasing a CTR if it was available also. I loved my Si, but wanted to try something different. But the new generation of Civics are just terrible. Very cheap on the inside, so I don't know if I would still but a Type R, if they made one for the 9th Generation Civic, and for some random reason started selling them in the US.
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Type R cars usually see a level of modification unlike your typical TRD car though. The thing a bout TRD technocraft, you can get pretty much a TRD anything from the factory in Japan, you just have to order it, a la carte from the parts catalog, and pay through the nose. You won't likely find any stripped and seam welded chassis though, unless you look at very special edition (Toyota) vehicles. |
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CTR would beat the brakes off the 86 with a trunk full of groceries and still get better mpg as well.
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If the CTR was here in the states I would have purchased it over the BRZ. I've had 11 Hondas, and every version of the Si they made up until 2011. Sadly after the ITR's stopped their production Honda hasn't let the US have anything exciting. Had they included the US market in any of the CTRs I'd still be a fan. They let me down, and I moved to another mfg.
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Yeah, Honda used to have some hardcore nuts on them, and imo, they lost their soul. According to Best Motoring, the CTR is actually on the same level as the NSX-S on the track.
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if your primary objective is performance on the track, just get a cobalt ss and destroy everything in this conversation including the nsx. if its soul you want, there is always a miata. if you want both, be prepared to spend another 20k
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Never knew the Cobalt SS was a heavy contender in the sports car world. In terms of the Civic Type R vs the 86 TRD. Here is a Honda fanboy defending his rice: It still is FWD vs RWD no matter how you look at it. But those of you who don't think driving a FWD is any fun, need to drive a Civic Type R. That thing has a pretty damn rigid chassis, it actually oversteers into corners when late braking. The rear comes right around. I think the CTR does 0-60 in just under 6 seconds? not bad for a 200hp FWD. How much did the stock 86 get around Tsukuba? Around 1:10? I think that's what the videos told us. According to fastlaps.com the CTR does it in 1:07.49. Pretty damn fast for a FWD ![]() 220hp 160lbs of tq, 2800lbs, LSD, 5.1 final drive, vtec @ 5800rpm That's alot of fun for a little honda civic. Here is a little bit for the guys who have no idea what the Civic Type R is (as it isn't sold in America) [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndaUTJUEzDg"]Civic Type R Returns (FD2) - CTR MEGA TEST & BATTLE - Best Motoring International - YouTube[/ame] Suzuka Lap Time was 2"35"20 Tried to look for a Toyota 86 one. Only found a BRZ one.. Not sure if it's the same full lap but this video gave us 2'42"139 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcX-1zLFb3U"]€ZC6€‘ ˆ鹿‚ƒ‚*ƒƒƒˆ SUBARU BRZ ƒŽƒƒžƒ‚‚ SUZUKA CIRCUIT - YouTube[/ame] That is some epic 7 second difference. To make it worse the BRZ had Advan AD08s, Light weight rims, and Endless Brakes. Of course the driver made the difference too, As Tsuchiya was driving the FD2. No clue who was driving the BRZ. BTW the Canadian CSX-S is a actually a nifty car if you plan to do a FD2 conversion. It's much easier to convert a CSX to a FD2 than a FA5 to a FD2. If you are into that whole JDM conversion thing. This is still my favorite Civic of all time ![]()
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