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Old 07-16-2022, 07:12 AM   #1
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22GR/BRZ Oil Temps

Hey,

Just wondering what's the range of oil temps people are seeing? Normal street driving temps are 195-210 depending on load.

When I was at the track I was experiencing temps as high as 235, maybe 240. 87 degrees ambient out. Oil temp would quickly dropped once I reduced load.

This a normal range?
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Normal. You hit 260, it's time to think about a remote oil cooler.
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The highest I have seen so far at Road Atlanta is the very end of 2 in 270.

Rough calculation:

1 square = (340 - 120) / 74 = 2.97 degrees.

I am 47 squares in so 120 + 47*2.97 = 260 degrees.

Running Motul 300V 5w30 and will be switching to 5w40 in the future.
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235 wouldn’t be any concern. I’m debating a oil cooler for sure though.

At Sebring in 98* ambient, I hit 268 in 3 laps. Firm in 95* ambient I hit 253 in 7 laps.
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Thanks for the input.

There's no way to get ambient intake temp readings right?
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Thanks for the input.

There's no way to get ambient intake temp readings right?
Provided your car is moving, the IAT (intake air temperature) reading should be close to ambient.



Or you can look at your ambient temperature readout on the dash (or your weather report)
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The highest I have seen so far at Road Atlanta is the very end of 2 in 270.

Rough calculation:

1 square = (340 - 120) / 74 = 2.97 degrees.

I am 47 squares in so 120 + 47*2.97 = 260 degrees.

Running Motul 300V 5w30 and will be switching to 5w40 in the future.
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Provided your car is moving, the IAT (intake air temperature) reading should be close to ambient.


Or you can look at your ambient temperature readout on the dash (or your weather report)
Yes, lol. What I meant was, do our cars show intake temps?
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Yes, lol. What I meant was, do our cars show intake temps?
If you have an OBD-II reader, yes.
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Hey,

Just wondering what's the range of oil temps people are seeing? Normal street driving temps are 195-210 depending on load.

When I was at the track I was experiencing temps as high as 235, maybe 240. 87 degrees ambient out. Oil temp would quickly dropped once I reduced load.

This a normal range?
Normal-ish, yes. Oil temp will only go up as you get faster. It's time for an oil cooler.

CSG has Color Fittings, Jackson Racing, and GReddy available.
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Normal-ish, yes. Oil temp will only go up as you get faster. It's time for an oil cooler.

CSG has Color Fittings, Jackson Racing, and GReddy available.
Yes, most likely getting one in the future.
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FWIW I always see temps of 270F-275F at the track with my '17, regardless of ambient temps. No oil cooler and not planning on one for my usage, which is 95% street with ~10-12 track days per year (consisting of 3-4x ~15-minute sessions per day). I run 5w30 synthetic. Currently at 70k miles and 48 track days.

Oil in the car now still looks remarkably "fresh" after ~2500 miles and 6 track days on this fill. Also, this is the first car I've ever dailied or tracked that seems to use NO oil whatsoever between changes. Even with the 6 track days thrown in it's still a bit above the "full" mark as it was when I checked it just after last oil change. Kind of amazing...
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FWIW I always see temps of 270F-275F at the track with my '17, regardless of ambient temps. No oil cooler and not planning on one for my usage, which is 95% street with ~10-12 track days per year (consisting of 3-4x ~15-minute sessions per day). I run 5w30 synthetic. Currently at 70k miles and 48 track days.

Oil in the car now still looks remarkably "fresh" after ~2500 miles and 6 track days on this fill. Also, this is the first car I've ever dailied or tracked that seems to use NO oil whatsoever between changes. Even with the 6 track days thrown in it's still a bit above the "full" mark as it was when I checked it just after last oil change. Kind of amazing...
That's awesome.

How often did you change the first couple oils?
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That's awesome.
How often did you change the first couple oils?
Changed factory fill out after ~5k miles with 5w30 for track season. Changed after two track events (4 days with ~4x15min stints/day) + ~3500 street miles. Changed oil ~ every 5k miles or every 2 or sometimes 3 track events since then, switching back to 0w20 for winter months.
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I thought with new models having integrated oil cooler (Forester OEM like) Temps should be more lower
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