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til reskinned beetles (356) are racecars.
Corvette is a good benchmark, and a clear barometer that Porsche decided selling cars was more important then being cool in the eyes of people who can't afford to buy their cars new. BTW the smallest lightest Porsche currently is ~400# lighter then a Corvette. Boxster - 3150 Corvette - 3535 |
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Engine slightly detuned compared to GT3 RS (493 vs 502HP).
Less downforce. Still has front struts. Regular mechanical diff vs E-diff. Narrower tyres (can’t house rear tyres as wide as GT3). Somehow heavier? But the real reason, which explains most of the above? No Cayman can be allowed to eclipse its big brother, the 911. The product hierarchy must be maintained, and if that means the GT4 RS must be sandbaged so it is just behind a GT3 RS, so be it. |
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For sure people raced them, but when I spoke of Porsche making its name racing in the 50s and beating bigger/heavier/more-powerful cars in "faster" classes I was primarily speaking of the 550 (and original 718)... Quote:
I could afford a new Porsche, but honestly nothing that they make interests me that much. I do understand that coddling the backsides and egos of rich people is a much higher priority for them than producing legit lightweight sports cars. (aside: "than" is a word!) Quote:
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Oops forgot who I was responding to, enjoy.
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Local dealer has 1 remaining allocation. They want 249k for the last one which will be comming in miami blue with the 43k in options including the carbon exterior pkg... even without the 38k dealer markup. So much for that upgrade.
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That reminds me, I should go tell my friend who doesn't know what to do with his money to buy a GT3/GT4RS as an investment lol. He'll fit right in with all the other owners who never drive it, or just take it to the grocery store. |
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Starting with the latest GT4 (not the 2016 981 GT4), the front suspension is 100% lifted from the GT3. i.e. its double wishbone, not strut.
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Technically the first car designed by Ferdinand Porsche was the 1898 Egger-Lohner electric vehicle which was basically a motorized horse wagon. Then several decades later when Porsche Motor Car company was founded, it was a design firm, not producing any cars. One of its first real cars was the Beetle, then tanks during WWII. It wasn't until well after the War, and Ferdinand was released from prison without going to trial for war crimes, did he and his son build the 356 prototype.
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The were cheap throw away import fighting econobox coupes with a 0 to 60 of around 3 hours and the handling of a horse drawn milk cart. Even the 260 and 289 base two barrel V8 versions were crap. The only ones that created the whole Pony car genre were the higher output 289 V8 and they made up about 2% of the total built. The perception that the most powerful ones were plentiful is skewed by the fact that those are what you see as the survivors now. All in all to throw the base model weights around in a Pony car discussion is deceiving.
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It also wasn't a "tank" in the true sense of the word. It was a tank hunter with the gun fixed in the hull instead of a turret. There were not many of them since they just used the existing chassis from the design proposal samples to make them but they were greatly feared and had a spectacular kill ratio.
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Honestly, the Twins are the lightweight Porsche, minus the mid engine. |
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Oh the desire to try an EZ36r swapped twin is strong. If only there was a direct injection retrofit available.
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I did get a 987.2 back in 2018! 2.9 6-speed. Honestly I never warmed up to the nonlinear variable-ratio steering, and the car is a bit bigger than it needs to be, and of course heavier... Mine was 3050 lb. with fuel. Did minor mods (stiffer/lower PASM springs, GT3 adjustable lower front control arms for front camber). Compared it back-to-back on the road and at the track over the course of the year versus the similarly modded BRZ, idea was to keep the one I liked best. I kept the BRZ and it was no contest! Mainly because BRZ *way* more fun just driving around town at 2/10ths while the Porsche just felt aloof and disinterested until up around 8/10ths plus at the track. Honestly, twins would be perfect for me except for the whole +2 thing with the rear wheels shoved ridiculously far aft, giving it shite F/R weight distribution...
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