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04-06-2021, 06:40 PM | #15 |
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Easy enough to tune the response from the drive-by-wire throttle and command more aggressive opening of the throttle plate. Personally I find the throttle response in the current-gen BRZ to be aggressive enough. Unlike my 987.2 Cayman 2.9! It had "sport chrono (+?)", and god forbid if I forgot to mash the "sport" button. Without it the car felt like a slug in "normal" around-town driving. Even in sport mode throttle response was lazy and boring, car felt slow as a Prius around town. BRZ throttle response was downright jumpy in comparison!
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Do the cars look completely CGI and out of Forza to anyone else? Or is it just me?
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04-07-2021, 07:17 AM | #18 |
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One thing I've noticed from the drive is that GR86 looks like a lower spec that we have yet seen.
The seats are all fabric, the sound generator isn't on (but may be switched off), plain interior door handles, missing seat warmers, plain stitching. It could be prototype, but it could also reflect the bottom end car. |
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In fact, I'm a little salty about buttons littering my sterring wheel. My Base MK6 GTI didn't have any buttons either. Insert: Oh yea? No buttons!? Back in my day we didn't have... |
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In my X1 the screen is high up and obviously controlled by Idrive. But my Scion IM is in the dash like the twins, but its kind of parallel with the steering wheel. Its actually NOT a good spot, continuously having to look down at it whereas the bimmer is in the sightline and i just need to glance right. With the twins infotainment screen located somewhat similar to the as the iM, i would imagine the same issue will arise. And thats where the steering wheel buttons come in. I feel safer using it because changing songs and interacting with the screen takes my focus away from the road for quite a lot longer than i would like. Its almost like looking down at a phone while driving.... Obviously i cant tell if sitting lower down and having the center stack not as tall helps makes the sightlines any more paralell with where your eyes are, but that is my take on steering wheel buttons. |
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Last time around in aus Toyota released with two version. Base povo on 16"rims, and top spec with all the bells and whistles on 17"rims. Subaru at that time only released one spec, bang in the middle. On 17"rims, but with no GPS or no climate control aircon - cant remember exactly, but it was missing some of the interior upgrades. In Japan they also had a stripper model which I'm sure you know about, running 15"steel wheels and no paint. |
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04-08-2021, 02:39 AM | #22 |
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The GR86 kind of does, though I'd like to see it in person and compared to other cars in traffic. I still think it looks good overall (save for the continuous line in the back, which I hope can be deleted) and the performance specs seem really promising.
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That line in the back tailights could easily be used for whitelines or redlines taillights,like the original ae86.
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So the one japanese video where they're actually driving the cars on the track.
I believe its mentioned that the GR86 feels like driving a GR car (GR Supra, GR Yaris) While the BRZ feels like driving a Subaru car (Impreza, WRX, Levorg, STI) SO i'd say the differentiation is pretty well done. |
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That would be very cool - and they could embiggen that black line on the trunk under the ducktail to get that 80s bar across the trunk/should-be-hatch look.
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The first generation 2013 twins used the same dampers but a softer front spring rate was used in the Scion and 86. The end result being the BRZ was a bit more planted as you would want it on a track and the Scion and Toyota were more playful wanting to rotate more readily at lower speeds. For the track, the Subaru tuning is better but then not many people track stock cars repetitively.
All I would ever want from this platform is an updated one of these. The Corolla GTS and the MR2 both with the same 4AG engine were a hoot to drive, especially in the winter.
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