follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-28-2013, 08:53 PM   #1
mikepaul21
Member
 
mikepaul21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Location: Camp Lejeune
Posts: 95
Thanks: 86
Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Forged internals

Before I start this I already know 90% of you are going to hate on this so if you want to say something stupid please don't, I'm just trying to get your guys' opinion. That being said, I'm active duty military and going to deploy again soon and won't have internet while I'm there. When I get back I plan on giving myself a welcome home present and turbocharging my BRZ and my goal is the mid to high 300's for hp. I also want to be totally safe with this project. I know that low-compression pistons and forged rods and crankshaft would help me to be able to safely boost my car to this hp but was wondering what else you guys think I should do to. I already have my whole turbo setup thought up but I'm just looking on the internal work to support it. Also some links to reputable manufacturers of forged pistons/rods/crankshaft would be nice, I tried to find some on here but had little luck.
mikepaul21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #2
alex_86
Member
 
alex_86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 scion firestorm frs
Location: Dallas,Texas
Posts: 77
Thanks: 10
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
HORSEPOWER!!!

Let me start off by saying thank you for serving our country. lol.

now you already have some of it figured out (forged internals) your main concern just be pistons,rods,bearings and fasteners. The stock Crankshaft will be fine. You will also will need new fuel injectors to properly handle the given hp. And would be advisable to switch out to a new fuel pump as well as a new clutch to support (given hp). Look up in the turbo threads and follow/read some of the builds by companies and look at what they used and how they got to their goals to give you a better idea. as to links for forged internals.

http://www.briancrower.com/makes/subaru/misc_rods.shtml

http://ft86speedfactory.com/engine-4...c89ab5c5a12df5

http://www.crawfordperformance.com/p...3-brzfrsgt-86/
alex_86 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to alex_86 For This Useful Post:
mikepaul21 (10-29-2013)
Old 10-28-2013, 10:27 PM   #3
mike the snake
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Norcal
Posts: 1,592
Thanks: 1
Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
So far, here's where I'm at, without touching the engine;

FB premium stage 1 GTX28 $7000 (with goodies like injectors, fuel pump, etc.)
Robispec radiator/oil cooler $1200
Tomei 80R exhaust $1000
Nameless 3" overpipe and front pipe $500
Crawford oil catch can $300
ACT clutch $600
Hydra standalone EMS $1800 (Ecutek is less at $750)
Hydramist methanol injection system $800
Beatrush front crash bar $300
Labor and tune estimate $2000

Still to go at some later point;

Vented hood $700
Big brakes $2-3000
Full roll cage $2-3000
More suspension goodies $2-3000

This I'm hoping for 300-plus HP on 91 gas.
If you go with E85, or WMI, you should be able to get to 350 or higher without touching the engine block.
mike the snake is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mike the snake For This Useful Post:
mikepaul21 (10-29-2013)
Old 10-28-2013, 11:35 PM   #4
pmccut
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: Blue Subarus
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 342
Thanks: 258
Thanked 81 Times in 64 Posts
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
There's a few choices for forged internals that I've seen. I ended up going with @FullBlown's short-block build with CP 9:1 pistons, and some unknown forged rods. It really depends on your goal. If you want those #s on pump gas then you'll probably need to drop the c/r but E85 wouldn't be hard to do on a stock engine.

I just searched the forum for 'forged pistons' and there's a few options people are posting about.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike the snake View Post
So far, here's where I'm at, without touching the engine;

FB premium stage 1 GTX28 $7000 (with goodies like injectors, fuel pump, etc.)
Robispec radiator/oil cooler $1200
Tomei 80R exhaust $1000
Nameless 3" overpipe and front pipe $500
Crawford oil catch can $300
ACT clutch $600
Hydra standalone EMS $1800 (Ecutek is less at $750)
Hydramist methanol injection system $800
Beatrush front crash bar $300
Labor and tune estimate $2000

Still to go at some later point;

Vented hood $700
Big brakes $2-3000
Full roll cage $2-3000
More suspension goodies $2-3000

This I'm hoping for 300-plus HP on 91 gas.
If you go with E85, or WMI, you should be able to get to 350 or higher without touching the engine block.
Sidenote: Can't wait to meet you and check out your car at one of these NorCal meets!
__________________
'13 GBS BRZ 6MT | FBM 9:1 w/ GTX3076R| FBM oil cooler + catch-can + radiator + SPAL fans| Rays 57xtreme / PSS | Perrin 2.5" FP | Invidia 2.5" OP | Perrin 3" CBE | RCE T2s | Exedy Stg1
'15 STI LE | Cobb Stg1
pmccut is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pmccut For This Useful Post:
mikepaul21 (10-29-2013)
Old 10-29-2013, 04:10 PM   #5
mikepaul21
Member
 
mikepaul21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Location: Camp Lejeune
Posts: 95
Thanks: 86
Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Thanks a lot guys, I was already planning on new injectors, spark plugs and fuel pump I was just curious about what I should know about the engine internals.
mikepaul21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2013, 06:09 PM   #6
King Tut
NASA SpecE30 Racer
 
King Tut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2006 Honda S2000
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 7,279
Thanks: 607
Thanked 5,759 Times in 3,055 Posts
Mentioned: 274 Post(s)
Tagged: 10 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to King Tut
Low compression pistons and rods would be the only things I would worry about. The easy route is just getting a preassembled block from Full Blown, but I tend to mistrust local machine shops and would rather know that my block was assembled properly.
__________________
King Tut is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to King Tut For This Useful Post:
mikepaul21 (10-29-2013)
Old 10-30-2013, 09:36 PM   #7
ramiram1984
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2016 STi DGM
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 1,607
Thanks: 742
Thanked 516 Times in 334 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
With you deployed, no prob! It's how I bought my car haha...
And other stuff :/

Good luck where you're at!
__________________
-2014 SSM BRZ MT
ramiram1984 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2013, 10:26 PM   #8
mike the snake
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Norcal
Posts: 1,592
Thanks: 1
Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Just added this list up, and it's a tad over 15 grand.

Add another 3 grand for a built shortblock.

This number could be lower with other choices on turbo kit, and ECU.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mike the snake View Post
So far, here's where I'm at, without touching the engine;

FB premium stage 1 GTX28 $7000 (with goodies like injectors, fuel pump, etc.)
Robispec radiator/oil cooler $1200
Tomei 80R exhaust $1000
Nameless 3" overpipe and front pipe $500
Crawford oil catch can $300
ACT clutch $600
Hydra standalone EMS $1800 (Ecutek is less at $750)
Hydramist methanol injection system $800
Beatrush front crash bar $300
Labor and tune estimate $2000

Still to go at some later point;

Vented hood $700
Big brakes $2-3000
Full roll cage $2-3000
More suspension goodies $2-3000

This I'm hoping for 300-plus HP on 91 gas.
If you go with E85, or WMI, you should be able to get to 350 or higher without touching the engine block.
mike the snake is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DI pump Internals SkullWorks Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 60 10-30-2014 02:23 PM
Engine Internals from CP-Carrillo Now Available! Infamous Performance Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 108 02-13-2014 11:35 AM
Engine internals before FI? Rejor11 Forced Induction 14 06-04-2013 05:18 PM
stronger/forged internals Tyson Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 24 03-15-2013 04:38 AM
How about them internals nytfury Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 5 08-27-2012 07:23 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.