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Old 01-03-2019, 06:34 PM   #1
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Can the BRZ Actually Ruin Your Life?

I think this car can really destroy an owner's finances and future!

I don't like to throw on random parts like aftermarket tails, fogs, etc...

...but I am pricing out a proper build with FI and let me just say that with proper coilovers, wheels/tires, brakes, FI kit, tune and labor/install, you are looking at another $30k.

I know people will come in and dispute this most likely, but believe me, I have the spreadsheets with everything priced out and let me just say it's just mental!

Again, if you want a proper build with quality parts and want the car to feel like an entire package, then you're looking at the cost of another complete car!

As an example, I see people throwing turbo kits and using OEM brakes and OEM motor mounts and bushings. The OEM mounts and bushings are bad enough being N/A - can't imagine how bad the driving experience would be with twice the power. OEM bushings and mounts have too much deflection and movement going on just with the car being completely stock.

Either way, love the car!

"Broke-due-to-modding" crew, please check in to this thread!
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:40 PM   #2
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Modifying a car is expensive. I just run the improper coilovers. Saves me a couple bucks.
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:43 PM   #3
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As a two year owner who loves his 86 I sometimes think that people really miss the intent of this car as built by Subaru and largely designed and thought out by Toyota. It is a affordable sporty fun to drive 4 cylinder that gets good gas mileage. A throwback to the Toyota Celica's and Corollas of the early to mid 1980's. In those terms it is great. If you intend to spend 50-60K on it total I would have started with a different car but it is a free country (as of now ) so do as you wish.

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Old 01-03-2019, 06:50 PM   #5
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$30k seems a bit high, but I guess it comes down to how much power you are going for and who is doing the work. 350rwhp is a different animal than 300rwhp and doing you own install is definitely worlds away from paying someone else to do it.
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If you throw away all the receipts as you go it's like all the modding was free.
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100% agree with @22R. Being super fast with a lot of horsepower is not what Toyota intended. Otherwise they wouldíve turbocharged it from factory or something. Itís still a decently quick little car and seeing a swapped/boosted BRZ and stuff is pretty cool. And as previously mentioned, if you want a fast car and have the ability to spend upwards of $50k then starting with another platform would probably be best. Obviously, itís up to the buyer. Personally, I LOVE this car even stock. Handles great and looks sexy as hell lol on top of great gas mileage and a decently affordable price.
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Anyone spending $30k to mod this car is
1) an utterly clueless moron
2) has never been on a track (does not even know what driving fast means)
3) is stupid with money
4) belongs in a Mustang
5) All of the above

Learn to drive the car before you go broke ruining it.

Here's some reading
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:13 PM   #9
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Or keep it NA, gut it, buy lightweight accessories, mod it, tune e85 and you'll be faster than a tuned 91 turbo twin. You'll be able to dig and roll cars with over 100hp and beat them easily. All total less than a turbo kit with support mods.
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OP said it would cost $30k for modding. Keep in mind he is from Canada. So $30k Canadian is like $450 American. So not too bad I think


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Old 01-03-2019, 09:31 PM   #11
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Anyone spending $30k to mod this car is
1) an utterly clueless moron
2) has never been on a track (does not even know what driving fast means)
3) is stupid with money
4) belongs in a Mustang
5) All of the above

Learn to drive the car before you go broke ruining it.

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Guess I better go fuck myself then huh?

According to my spreadsheet from my previous FR-S, I spent nearly $22k, maybe even more. It was a learning experience for sure. Sometimes the mod bug bites you hard. Then again, I didn't get "ruined" by the spending.
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:15 PM   #12
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Anyone spending $30k to mod this car is
1) an utterly clueless moron
2) has never been on a track (does not even know what driving fast means)
3) is stupid with money
4) belongs in a Mustang
5) All of the above

Learn to drive the car before you go broke ruining it.
Let's see;
1) no, my mom had me tested
2) well, I've been on a track a couple times
3) 3 sports cars,duh!
4) always disliked Mustangs, so no

Didn't quite spend that much, but a lot.
Why does everyone keep saying I ruined my car?
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Old 01-03-2019, 10:21 PM   #13
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cars don't ruin anything. we do it to ourselves.

i've got a wishlist with ITB's on it... the car doesn't need it. i don't need it. but i sure want it!
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Canadian dollar is around .73 currently so $30K CD is in fact $21,900 US. If you back out Ontario sales tax at 13% you have $19,380. I can spend that on FI, oil cooler, coilovers, exhaust, pads...but not without tradeoffs.

Might be doable if you do most if not all your own labour and even then hardly enough to do things like light band name calipers. I did my best starting with a used supercharger which I killed and re-bought new. Also upgraded pads and fluid only. For the >$50K I have spent not sure what else in the market would have been as satisfying and brand new or pretty new to start.
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