COVID Developments and News

[wbradley]

I apologize to everyone here taking up their time explaining things to people over and over again. Public health people are supposed to be handling it.

People who are vaccine hesitant, if you can call it that at this point, will extrapolate information wherever they can that they believe supports their position.

Overall it's suspicion that the clinical trials are insufficient.
Also, fear of the side effects.
And lastly, the desire to resist all advice and in so doing prove themselves steadfast in their resolve.

There are mRNA and conventional vaccines. Pick the one you find least suspicious.
The side effects are bupkis or maybe 2 or 3 days feeling weak. I had slightly tender lymph node over my left collar bone after my 2nd vaccination and I'm 57 and slightly overweight.
Lastly, I don't admire you or see anything noble in your action, if standing firm to your cause is the MO. Many like yourselves, when proven wrong without a question of a doubt, will stand your ground as a product of ego. And some will be harmed and die as a result. Nothing noble, perhaps pathologically obstinate.

[Lantanafrs2]

Ivermectin

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.pal...amp/8470299002

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by Hoahao

I can understand why you wouldn't want to spend much time with the article. You'd have to deal with this part...

Vaccine Rollout Coincides With Outbreak
Other areas are also reporting "outbreaks" of COVID-19, resulting in increased death tolls, after the rollout of vaccinations. Case in point: In Auburn, New York, a COVID-19 outbreak began December 21, 2020, in a Cayuga County nursing home.9,10 Before this outbreak, no one in the nursing home had died from COVID-19.

The next day, December 22, they started vaccinating residents and staff. The first death was reported December 29, 2020. Between December 22, 2020, and January 9, 2021, 193 residents (80%) received the vaccine, as did 113 staff members.

As of January 9, 2021, 137 residents had been infected and 24 had died. Forty-seven staff members had also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and one was on life-support.

Considering we're also seeing cases in which healthy young and middle-aged individuals die within days of receiving the vaccine, it's not inconceivable that the vaccine might have something to do with these dramatic rises in deaths among the elderly in various parts of the world. In fact, I'd expect it.

You can rest assured, however, that the public health authorities and media will not report these observations. Anything that conflicts with vaccine safety and effectiveness will be intentionally and universally buried. This is precisely their modus operandi of the past three decades, so it's really up to each individual to do their own research.

TLDR:
The vaccine/all vaccines is/are suspected to temporarily lower your resistance to all diseases.

BTW this is observable with annual Flu vaccines as well.

A lot of healthcare workers have the feeling of: "I have been exposed to everthing and have not gotten sick since establishing natural immunity. Why would I mess that up with/for a vaccine that lowers my natural immunity for a shot that only offers 3-4 months of protection?"

Also the more up to date information does confirm this fear.

The risk profile is NOT the same for everyone.

As WBradley pointed out above, people will tend to view/find evidence that supports their stance.

Vaccine hesitant will cite studies from Isreal and the UK who are general 90 days ahead of us with evidence, due to their ability to enforce mandates, and the vaccines are shown to lose efficacy after 3-4 months. They will also cite studies from years ago that show that natural immunity lasts much longer and carries a broader spectrum of immunity.

The pro-vaccine people will cite CNN and Legacy Media and Social Media which has been caught silencing any information that counters their stance. They will also ignore when this same media contradicts itself and claim "trust the science" when their side has flip-flopped a dozen times since this started.

None of this means either side is right or wrong. But the refusal to acknowledge that there is actual evidence that the vaccines could be bad is what makes people nervous to blindly trust stuff.

[Atropine]

One other thing:

Since this is/has been made political.

One political side sells fear porn.

How many times do you need to be told that "XXXX is the greatest threat to humanity"?

Climate change (it alternates between global warming and an icoming ice age), racism, COVID, nuclear energy, meat eaters..etc.

Quit living in fear and live your life to the best of your ability. Try to be nice to others and be happy.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Atropine

One other thing:

Since this is/has been made political.

One political side sells fear porn.

How many times do you need to be told that "XXXX is the greatest threat to humanity"?

Climate change (it alternates between global warming and an icoming ice age), racism, COVID, nuclear energy, meat eaters..etc.

Quit living in fear and live your life to the best of your ability. Try to be nice to others and be happy.

Both sides sell fear porn. I fall in between and the shit I see on one side is usually a mirror of the other. If it's not COVID or Racism, it's guns getting taken away door to door or their 'freedom' being stripped away. Or wars in the streets. Or whatever else 'they' want to spout that week.

[weederr33]

Also, lulz at one of the tags being 'barebacker thread'

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atropine

TLDR:
The vaccine/all vaccines is/are suspected to temporarily lower your resistance to all diseases.

BTW this is observable with annual Flu vaccines as well.

A lot of healthcare workers have the feeling of: "I have been exposed to everthing and have not gotten sick since establishing natural immunity. Why would I mess that up with/for a vaccine that lowers my natural immunity for a shot that only offers 3-4 months of protection?"

Also the more up to date information does confirm this fear.

The risk profile is NOT the same for everyone.

As WBradley pointed out above, people will tend to view/find evidence that supports their stance.

Vaccine hesitant will cite studies from Isreal and the UK who are general 90 days ahead of us with evidence, due to their ability to enforce mandates, and the vaccines are shown to lose efficacy after 3-4 months. They will also cite studies from years ago that show that natural immunity lasts much longer and carries a broader spectrum of immunity.

The pro-vaccine people will cite CNN and Legacy Media and Social Media which has been caught silencing any information that counters their stance. They will also ignore when this same media contradicts itself and claim "trust the science" when their side has flip-flopped a dozen times since this started.

None of this means either side is right or wrong. But the refusal to acknowledge that there is actual evidence that the vaccines could be bad is what makes people nervous to blindly trust stuff.

Source? Because the one you quoted continues to deliver nonsense.

[weederr33]

Since we are all just posting shit, here's mine:

[spike021]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Both sides sell fear porn. I fall in between and the shit I see on one side is usually a mirror of the other. If it's not COVID or Racism, it's guns getting taken away door to door or their 'freedom' being stripped away. Or wars in the streets. Or whatever else 'they' want to spout that week.

Yeah some people in here would be surprised but I'm very middle-middle and know people, like relatives/friends on both sides. lol.

[spike021]

So the 2nd Ben of Gears and Gasoline posted a video today with an update that hospitalized Ben has been intubated and put on a ventilator.

Toward the end of the video, he goes on to say that talking about vaccinations and such are unnecessary and to discuss it is unproductive, etc etc.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by spike021

So the 2nd Ben of Gears and Gasoline posted a video today with an update that hospitalized Ben has been intubated and put on a ventilator.

Toward the end of the video, he goes on to say that talking about vaccinations and such are unnecessary and to discuss it is unproductive, etc etc.

Yep. He ded.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Since we are all just posting shit, here's mine:

You know, real American heros there. I think they would make ideal candidates for the first human colony on Mars. It's the only real free place left dontchaknow.

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Source? Because the one you quoted continues to deliver nonsense.

have sourced this multiple times in this thread

You can disagree with it.

But its all peer reviewed.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Atropine

have sourced this multiple times in this thread

The thread he quoted, with you quoting Haoh has 0 sources. So, no source.