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ZDan · 07-28-2018, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rvoll

From a technology standpoint, I'd like a CVT that is programmed for performance and stays in the highest point of the torque curve all of the time.

For performance (max acceleration), you want to stay at peak power, not peak torque...

stevesnj · 07-28-2018, 04:20 PM

I'll take either or, I'd prefer a Dual Clutch or very fast auto or a manual. I like to go with the times. For me it's about fastest shifts possible.

Irace86.2.0 · 07-28-2018, 09:16 PM

Dual clutches are automatics. There are manuals then there is everything else. Autos can be fun too, but never as rewarding.

spike021 · 07-28-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Dual clutches are automatics. There are manuals then there is everything else. Autos can be fun too, but never as rewarding.

I hate to continue the tangent on this thread with manual vs auto, but I'll just add that this is honestly very true.

Few things are as satisfying to me as nailing an up or downshift during a fun drive. The reason being that it takes multiple steps to pull either thing off (more so for the downshift if you want to rev match), and you need to time everything precisely and smoothly to nail it.

new2subaru · 07-28-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spike021

I hate to continue the tangent on this thread with manual vs auto, but I'll just add that this is honestly very true.

Few things are as satisfying to me as nailing an up or downshift during a fun drive. The reason being that it takes multiple steps to pull either thing off (more so for the downshift if you want to rev match), and you need to time everything precisely and smoothly to nail it.

You guys feel that way and I'm not going to take that away from you.

But, you have to accept that there are others that just don't care.

spike021 · 07-28-2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

You guys feel that way and I'm not going to take that away from you.

But, you have to accept that there are others that just don't care.

Haha no worries. My post wasn’t meant to say ones better than the other. I was only emphasizing the bolded point.

krayzie · 07-28-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz

just sounds like you became a grandpa

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new2subaru · 07-28-2018, 11:35 PM

Can't quote you @spike021

I have to say, I would be less than thrilled if I didn't have control over my AT transmission.

I've begun to really like these flappy paddles, especially on track. I almost traded this one in for a manual but am glad I didn't.

Ultramaroon · 07-28-2018, 11:40 PM

In case anyone is wondering though, MT is way better.

Irace86.2.0 · 07-29-2018, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

You guys feel that way and I'm not going to take that away from you.

But, you have to accept that there are others that just don't care.

Dual clutch being an automatic is a fact—not a feeling. But if you were referring to the rewards, well then that is a fact too. Someone can enjoy their auto more. Hell, they could enjoy being a passenger while their professional racercar driver friend is behind the wheel. They can even hate the extra effort and concentration it takes to drive a manual. But they will never feel as rewarded as they could feel having perfected driving a proper manual. If they are incapable of such a sensation then it is possible they are better passangers than drivers.

To the point, a Toyota Supra without a manual option is a flop for me. I’ve driven a Lamborghini, Ferrari and Aston Martin, and even the Ferraris dual clutch was a numbing experience.

Irace86.2.0 · 07-29-2018, 01:41 AM

PS. Honda seems to understand... Civic SI and Type R, only available with a 6 speed.

krayzie · 07-29-2018, 03:58 AM

Perhaps JDM people have short inseams like I do and are not perfectly suited to drive German stick shift where the clutch pedal travel goes in fairly deep.

This was the main reason I didn't get a manual Golf GTI but opted for the initially hella cool but got boring real fast DSG option.

Captain Snooze · 07-29-2018, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

In case anyone is wondering though, MT is way better.

I refute your statement. A toasted ham, cheese and tomato sandwich with a light spread of Dijon mustard is much better.

Adam_L · 07-29-2018, 05:02 AM

those Grannys got some balls, but then again it's not their car

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