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[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

I take it you don't trust the water/meth injection kits?

Someones got to figure out how to cool with these big blowers

Its not the heat, its also the SHIT load of trq down low


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[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

Torque good. Heat Bad.

Torque is always good, but not down low and instantly


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[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

How so? Just curious.

Isn't that the main goal of a roots style SC?

I cant get very technical about it, but ill give it a shot

Yes it is the main purpose of a twin screw sc, but this block was never built to withstand a ton of torque down low which this huge sc does. My guess ur motor either detonated or the rods just let go

Im sure somebody more educated could chime in @King Tut @james @Sportsguy83 ?


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[King Tut]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

I take it you don't trust the water/meth injection kits?

Someones got to figure out how to cool with these big blowers

I like your idea of a bigger and thicker heat exchanger. Perhaps you could also add a Killer Chiller type setup where the coolant is also chilled by the A/C system.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Yes it is the main purpose of a twin screw sc, but this block was never built to withstand a ton of torque down low which this huge sc does. My guess ur motor either detonated or the rods just let go

Im sure somebody more educated could chime in @King Tut @james @Sportsguy83 ?

I am 100% sure it was his tune that killed the motor. I haven't seen any definitive proof that X amount of torque at X RPM kills an FA20 motor.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

If theres no cooling, and massive amounts of heat, no tune is going to help

Super high IATs will definitely lead to detonation, but how much boost were you running? Another common issue reported on the Innovate superchargers is not being able to accurately measure the IATs post blower either so adjusting the AFR/timing for IAT is difficult.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

We were seeing just about 20 pounds at 6,000 rpm. timing was being pulled and revs were never able to be ran any higher than that.

Remember though, the car detonated with pump gas in it. Thats a whole lotta boost for pump gas.

Wtf 20 pounds on pump with an sc


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[King Tut]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

We were seeing just about 20 pounds at 6,000 rpm. timing was being pulled and revs were never able to be ran any higher than that.

Remember though, the car detonated with pump gas in it. Thats a whole lotta boost for pump gas.

Why would you possibly drive the car under those conditions? Throw a larger pulley or a wastegate on that bad boy if you plan to run 93 octane.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

Have a wastegate solution for this supercharger?

And there is no room for a larger pulley, would have to go smaller at the crank. This pulley rubbed a hole in the padding on the underside of my hood.

Sounds like it would have to be custom. Now I am understanding why they said this was for built motors only. I didn't realize it was putting out 20 psi at 6000 RPM. Do you have any boost plots for it?

[Khorne]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Sounds like it would have to be custom. Now I am understanding why they said this was for built motors only. I didn't realize it was putting out 20 psi at 6000 RPM. Do you have any boost plots for it?

Pretty much, it should also be noted that Sprintex and the other companies that sell this have done 0 testing on it.
They only decided to sell the thing because they found it fits on the manifold they made.

OP, either sell it and get a turbo build or sell it and any other supercharger.
This blower will require a lot of work to get working correctly, it seems you just want simple bolt on power.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

We were seeing just about 20 pounds at 6,000 rpm. timing was being pulled and revs were never able to be ran any higher than that.

Remember though, the car detonated with pump gas in it. Thats a whole lotta boost for pump gas.

Tuner and owner error.

[Khorne]

Originally Posted by alexisfire02

I've already got a turbo car. Not interested in selling this kit.

Methanol injection + heat exchange upgrades

Well, good luck i'll be damn impressed if you do get the 335 working on the stock block. If you do i'm sure Sprintex would be interested as well as they are adamant that it is impossible to do without a forged block.

[knapper]

Any video and dyno sheets?

I don't mean to be rude, but it kind of sounds like you have a whole lot of money ... a very few car brains.

[JerryMichaels7]

this i can't wait to see