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Old 03-15-2023, 09:21 PM   #295
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Perfect setup mate. I’ve been searching far and wide and seems 5x100 18x9 ET45 wheels are pretty rare!
18x9.5 works great with 255/35 too.

Rays do their latest TE37 Saga SL in 18x9.5 5x100 +45 and best of all, in Face 4

Being a 2nd-gen, it just needs some 6-8mm spacers up front to set it off once you get camber sorted.
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18x9.5 works great with 255/35 too.

Rays do their latest TE37 Saga SL in 18x9.5 5x100 +45 and best of all, in Face 4

Being a 2nd-gen, it just needs some 6-8mm spacers up front to set it off once you get camber sorted.

Thanks mate. I assume the spacers wouldn’t be needed up front of running 1.5 or so front camber.
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Old 03-16-2023, 02:18 PM   #297
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Next 12-14 months I'm sure a lot of wheel companies are going to start pumping out 18x9 as 22+ specific fitment honestly. It's a really solid size.
For stance guys sure, my 245/35 Conti ECS just get inside the fenders at -2 camber and reasonable ride height on my 9.5 ET 45 Advans.

It's going to take reta-- camber and tiny tires to fit that setup.
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Thanks mate. I assume the spacers wouldn’t be needed up front of running 1.5 or so front camber.
Friends don't let friends run more rear camber than front. It's the Mcpherson strut front that needs more camber than the multi-link rear that has camber gain as part of its design.

I found out the hard way that even lowering the rear by 28mm gets -2.5 rear camber without camber arms. That's a fair bit more than the -1.8 that I wanted and expected. You want to run the same camber up front at the bare minimum. For a very mild street setup with rear camber arms, I'd run -1.5 rear and -2 front. Without camber arms, just run the same up front as your rear camber, never less.

Long story short, gen 2 NEEDS spacers up front unless you buy wheels with different offsets.
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For stance guys sure, my 245/35 Conti ECS just get inside the fenders at -2 camber and reasonable ride height on my 9.5 ET 45 Advans.

It's going to take reta-- camber and tiny tires to fit that setup.
Are you saying 18x9 is going to take retardo camber and tiny tires? Not the case at all man lol

I'm on 255/35 Squared, no rubbing under full compression in the rear, no cutting required. Stock RLCA, very functional setup.

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Friends don't let friends run more rear camber than front. It's the Mcpherson strut front that needs more camber than the multi-link rear that has camber gain as part of its design.

I found out the hard way that even lowering the rear by 28mm gets -2.5 rear camber without camber arms. That's a fair bit more than the -1.8 that I wanted and expected. You want to run the same camber up front at the bare minimum. For a very mild street setup with rear camber arms, I'd run -1.5 rear and -2 front. Without camber arms, just run the same up front as your rear camber, never less.

Long story short, gen 2 NEEDS spacers up front unless you buy wheels with different offsets.

Thanks mate. I get the point re camber, but keen to run OEM top hats on my coilovers (comfort) so the max adjustment up front get to -1.5 or so. Had this for years (with 2.5 rear) on my 86 with no issue. Sure, a little bit more up front would be great, but for a street car it was fine. Just trying to confirm whether I’d need spacers up front with 1.5 camber. Think it’ll be ok, but ill be able to do some test fitting in a week or so
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Thanks mate. I get the point re camber, but keen to run OEM top hats on my coilovers (comfort) so the max adjustment up front get to -1.5 or so. Had this for years (with 2.5 rear) on my 86 with no issue. Sure, a little bit more up front would be great, but for a street car it was fine. Just trying to confirm whether I’d need spacers up front with 1.5 camber. Think it’ll be ok, but ill be able to do some test fitting in a week or so
1.5 camber up front is very mild but OK. What I’m saying is if you have -1.5 front camber, it is what it is but there is absolutely no point having more than -1.5 rear camber if you have -1.5 front camber. Not only is there no performance benefit because you’re already limited by front-end grip, but anyone that knows sports/performance cars look at the car and see more rear camber than front and just think it’s been lowered improperly and cheaped out on camber adjustment.
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Are you saying 18x9 is going to take retardo camber and tiny tires? Not the case at all man lol

I'm on 255/35 Squared, no rubbing under full compression in the rear, no cutting required. Stock RLCA, very functional setup.

You aren't so dense that you're ignoring the offset.....right? Just the width without offset is meaningless when it comes to close fits.

9.5 ET 45 vs 9 ET 22 is more than a half inch difference to the outside. Technically .669" to the outside.
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You aren't so dense that you're ignoring the offset.....right? Just the width without offset is meaningless when it comes to close fits.

9.5 ET 45 vs 9 ET 22 is more than a half inch difference to the outside. Technically .669" to the outside.
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18x9 +45 w/ 255/35. No cutting or rubbing in the rear at full compression, inconsistent rub at full lock (only sometimes when parking)
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My apologies for not remembering one particular members exact wheel fitment. But the point stands, not including offset with width makes it hard to judge what will or won't fit.

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