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Old 01-15-2024, 04:02 PM   #57
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I needed SPL short endlinks with Tarmac 2s and TRD bar. Links JUST kiss the back of the strut at full lock.
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:10 PM   #58
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I guess we need to take different sway bars into account. I have the Perrin adjustable on the softest mounting point. Moving the mounting point may have also caused an issue.
Sure, we're talking about OEM bars
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I used a endlink made for Kia (215mm ish). Length and shaft thickness clears shock body (kw 1 way), control arm and all chassis common contact spots...up to about -4.2 camber before endlink cap starts making contact with wall. (max on crash bolt and top hat) on trd 21mm and perrin 22mm (forgot position used).

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Old 01-16-2024, 09:34 AM   #60
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Definitely recommend adjustable endlinks with adjustable swaybars or if you're corner balancing the car.

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Old 01-16-2024, 02:33 PM   #61
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Definitely recommend adjustable endlinks with adjustable swaybars or if you're corner balancing the car.

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Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction ])
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Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction ])
When you're corner balancing it is somewhat unlikely that your corners will be the same weight side to side, so the shock bodies (and therefore sway bar mount tabs) will sit at different distances relative to the sway bar pickup points. You need to corner balance with the bars disconnected, connect one corner at the proper length to prevent contact / binding, and then adjust the other so it slips into the sway bar with zero force.

Make sure you also index your end link rod ends / ball joints so that they don't bind.

It seems like it is extremely easy to get into end link issues with these cars in a way that causes binding or contact, a lot of manufs on both sides (coilovers and endlinks) seem to get it wrong. Length is important too. I've seen contact in the following ways, I'm sure there are more:
1. Sway bar to LCA
2. Endlink to chassis behind coilover
3. Endlink to bottom of strut when turning the steering wheel

This can cause weird stuff like power steering cut out, sudden understeer under certain situations, broken endlinks, etc.
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Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction ])
You will most likely be fine with the stock swaybar, endlinks, and 20mm drop.

With adjustable swaybars which have different mounting holes, it helps to have adjustable endlinks to make sure you don't have rubbing issues.

And to do a perfect corner balance, you need adjustable swaybars to make sure there's no preload on the swaybar.

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Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction ])
We will run the same setup, even same springs as I also ordered 60-170 for the rear. Will be curious to find if you finally needed the adjustable end links
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We will run the same setup, even same springs as I also ordered 60-170 for the rear. Will be curious to find if you finally needed the adjustable end links

No, I'm curious to find if *YOU* need the adjustable end links
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No, I'm curious to find if *YOU* need the adjustable end links
haha I have to wait 1 month or so to install it

but FYI some guys from Germany told me that it should work with OEM links with a drop of up to ~40mm. More than that you would need longer links in the front, not shorter
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