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Old 07-24-2023, 08:23 PM   #29
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Old 07-24-2023, 11:54 PM   #30
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Wonder if Subaru even has their BRZ engineering team still intact or already disbanded/redeployed. Putting the brembos and last gen knuckles is soooo zero-effort.
Well there are rumors swirling in Japanese car magazines that Toyota is already working on the third gen GR86 (supposedly due out in 2028) and that Subaru is NOT involved, and that it will have the three cylinder turbo from the GR Yaris..

Who knows how much truth there is to it..

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gr86+news

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Old 07-25-2023, 08:41 AM   #31
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Well there are rumors swirling in Japaneese car magazines that Toyota is already working on the third gen GR86 (supposedly due out in 2028) and that Subaru is NOT involved, and that it will have the three cylinder turbo from the GR Yaris..

Who knows how much truth there is to it..
THREE cylinder?!?!?!

Yes, I know how much hp and torque the turbo 3 in the GR puts out. But to me there's still something wrong with a 3 cylinder engine. It's just harmonically not as balanced as a 4 cylinder.

What a sad day that will be, to look back wistfully and think of the good old days when you could get a 4 cylinder engine. We should appreciate the last days of naturally-aspirated V8's right now.
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Old 07-25-2023, 08:57 PM   #32
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I’ll gladly take a 3 instead of EV.

YMMV.
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:10 PM   #33
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Isn't the caliper attachments points slightly different between the two knuckles? Or do you think there is a strength issue?
the mounting points are identical between both calipers.

i dont believe its a strength issue. if it was, why would they make the effort into even make an aluminum knuckle. the cast knuckle is cheaper to produce.

i personally dont think the flex thing is the real reason either.. again... why would subaru go through all the R&D into making an aluminum knuckle, showcase it during the car's initial reveal only to remove it in favor of brakes that the car doesnt really need.

it doesnt add up

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Where did you hear that?
it was said at Subiefest. it can be heard in a few videos right after the reveal..
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Well there are rumors swirling in Japanese car magazines that Toyota is already working on the third gen GR86 (supposedly due out in 2028) and that Subaru is NOT involved, and that it will have the three cylinder turbo from the GR Yaris..

Who knows how much truth there is to it..

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gr86+news
you mean the same rumors from 2013 that there's gonna be a turbo frs? yea ill believe it when i see it.

subaru literally makes this car for toyota at their plants. toyota wouldnt dump all the money into a production line for a car with low sales that doesnt make them much money.

let's not forget that it would bump the MSRP of the car up beyond 45k and compete with their other 2dr sports car... the Supra. they wont create competition for themselves lol
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I understand the previous version Brembos require some sort of adapter before mating to the new Al knuckles... Which incidentally cost a few more Yen to make, and Toyota already uses the old iron ones... so someone in Japan must have said "F' it" (in Japanese) and just decided to go with the old iron knuckles. How else can you bring out a Ts version without actually spending any money!


The remaining question: how does one say "F' it" in Japanese?
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The remaining question: how does one say "F' it" in Japanese?
They say "ts"
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THREE cylinder?!?!?!

Yes, I know how much hp and torque the turbo 3 in the GR puts out. But to me there's still something wrong with a 3 cylinder engine. It's just harmonically not as balanced as a 4 cylinder.

What a sad day that will be, to look back wistfully and think of the good old days when you could get a 4 cylinder engine. We should appreciate the last days of naturally-aspirated V8's right now.

Geo metro days are coming back with 3cylinder 1liter of cola farva style (super troopers reference) but they add a turbski on it.
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let's not forget that it would bump the MSRP of the car up beyond 45k and compete with their other 2dr sports car... the Supra. they wont create competition for themselves lol
Meh, every car company have some vehicles in their lineup that compete with others in their lineups. There is always overlap in pricing.
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you mean the same rumors from 2013 that there's gonna be a turbo frs? yea ill believe it when i see it.

subaru literally makes this car for toyota at their plants. toyota wouldnt dump all the money into a production line for a car with low sales that doesnt make them much money.

let's not forget that it would bump the MSRP of the car up beyond 45k and compete with their other 2dr sports car... the Supra. they wont create competition for themselves lol
I could see Toyota going on their own with the next generation, but not because they want to throw a turbo in it or other similar reasons.

Toyota may be forced to go solo on the next gen simply because Subaru won't be a partner in the project any more. Right now, the BRZ is the black sheep of the family. It doesn't match the overall corporate direction of Subaru at all. The BRZ isn't AWD, it isn't lifted, it won't go off road, you can't really boast about the safety structure of the vehicle like the Forrester or Outback, and worst of all: you can't haul cute puppies in it. Subaru's given up on their "halo" WRX by phoning in the recent generation and killing the STI. It's not hard to imagine the BRZ they've never really loved in the first place being dropped completely. Toyota, on the other hand, seems to be making an effort to offer at least a couple fun, on-road, performance cars. The GR86 fits well in their corporate strategy.

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...and worst of all: you can't haul cute puppies in it. ...
I was with you until that one. Multiple members here have posted photos of hauling their canine companion around in their Twin.
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I was with you until that one. Multiple members here have posted photos of hauling their canine companion around in their Twin.
Fair. I'm sure if the dog is the right size, you could haul it in a BRZ. I made that comment more out of sarcasm than anything else...which doesn't translate well to written word.

We've always owned large dogs and I know our late Great Dane would never fit. We had problems with getting her into much more spacious cars. My perspective on dog ownership is probably a little skewed.
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We've always owned large dogs and I know our late Great Dane would never fit. We had problems with getting her into much more spacious cars. My perspective on dog ownership is probably a little skewed.
Our dogs are Newfoundlands so I completely get it. They ride in the FRS on occasion, and love to ride in MomHawk's Mustang Convertible. If the door is open, she is in the car!
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