follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-13-2016, 01:03 AM   #1
hmong337
Emperor JDM
 
hmong337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: '91 MR2 Gen3 3SGTE, '13 FRS
Location: Onterrible, Canada
Posts: 1,748
Thanks: 3,498
Thanked 909 Times in 495 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Lexus LC500 vs Lexus RC-F...?

I don't get it. Didn't they just release the RC model lineup? But here we are with the release of the LC500. How the heck does that add up? Two new Lexus coupes within a year of each other. So did the RC get axed? I'm scratchin' my head at this one...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k6-3UoUhJ8"]Inside the All-New Lexus LC 500! - Motor Trend Presents - YouTube[/ame]
__________________
hmong337 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to hmong337 For This Useful Post:
qqqqball (01-15-2016)
Old 01-13-2016, 01:25 AM   #2
serialk11r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,265
Thanks: 283
Thanked 1,066 Times in 754 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Kind of strange that they had the RC-F project going when this was in the works yea.

I have a very very strong preference for the short nose long tail mid engine car look, and I'm not a huge fan of the 2UR-GSE but holy shit this car is beautiful, like James Bond Sceptre Aston Martin DB10 beautiful. One day if I am trying to decide on a garage queen and it comes down to a used Aston Martin or a used one of these...I'd honestly have a hard time saying no to this.

Last edited by serialk11r; 01-13-2016 at 01:44 AM.
serialk11r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 01:40 AM   #3
KR-S
Sporadic Member
 
KR-S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,146
Thanks: 5,221
Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 33 Thread(s)
So what I got from the video is that the LC 500 will compete with cars like the BMW 6-series. That suggests that they might somehow coexist even if they share the same 2UR-GSE engine. Hell, the LC 500 might be even more focused for comfort than speed, which would explain why it is not called the LC F despite having an F engine.

Alternatively, I don't think the RC will get axed entirely, though the F version might be. I imagine that an LC F, if the LC 500 isn't already considered to be part of the F lineup, will focus on handling and add a little more power to the 2UR-GSE.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by klearfade View Post
Is that gel in your hair?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by HueyLooie View Post
Nah, homes. It's your dadda's hot goopey goop.
KR-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 01:48 AM   #4
swarb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: BRZ
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 3,053
Thanks: 1,773
Thanked 2,449 Times in 1,271 Posts
Mentioned: 79 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
RCF vs M4
LC500 vs 6 series

dat 10 speed doe...
swarb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 01:53 AM   #5
serialk11r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,265
Thanks: 283
Thanked 1,066 Times in 754 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by KR-S 86 View Post
Hell, the LC 500 might be even more focused for comfort than speed, which would explain why it is not called the LC F despite having an F engine.
From the video, it seems like it's meant to be somewhat comfortable, for sure there's probably room to stiffen it up.

One thing to note about the engine is that the UR series all share the 94mm bore of the GR engines and just vary in stroke. At 89mm the stroke is pretty long already, and the bore spacing is pretty tight.

A possibility for higher power could be a supercharged 4.6L that revs higher, just random speculation. Or maybe just a supercharger bolted to the 5.0L.

The issue is that the UR engines stop making much power at high rpm so there isn't much of a point.
serialk11r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 02:04 AM   #6
KR-S
Sporadic Member
 
KR-S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,146
Thanks: 5,221
Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 33 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r View Post
A possibility for higher power could be a supercharged 4.6L that revs higher, just random speculation. Or maybe just a supercharger bolted to the 5.0L.

The issue is that the UR engines stop making much power at high rpm so there isn't much of a point.
Hmm, well I can't really see Lexus deciding to shoehorn a potential 2UR-GZS into an LC F as supercharging isn't the norm with them. They've only now started playing with turbos, but that's only on the inline 4s. Still, it is Toyota we are talking about here, so they could shock everyone and introduce an LC F with a turbo V8. That'd be a dream, and it would open up the path for a new Supra as well.

What I was initially thinking, though, is that they could somehow extract more power NA.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by klearfade View Post
Is that gel in your hair?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by HueyLooie View Post
Nah, homes. It's your dadda's hot goopey goop.
KR-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 10:52 AM   #7
gymratter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: BMW
Location: TX
Posts: 2,198
Thanks: 1,869
Thanked 1,691 Times in 878 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
The LC takes on the 6 series & S class coupe.

RC/RC-F compete with 4 series/M4 and C/C AMG.

Its all been talked about in the official thread...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2848
gymratter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 01:49 PM   #8
Mr.Impreza
Mr.Fujitsubo
 
Mr.Impreza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: 2018 STI
Location: Woodbridge
Posts: 1,718
Thanks: 4,048
Thanked 1,550 Times in 784 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Ooh, i like the looks of this one better than the RC-F...looks slimmer
__________________
2018 Subaru WRX STI ~ The Weekend Car ~
2015 Toyota 86 ~ The Sold Car ~ Build Journal
OFT Stage 1 Tune Review

Mr.Impreza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 02:49 PM   #9
jdmblood
Senior Member
 
jdmblood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: white subaru brz
Location: miami
Posts: 792
Thanks: 155
Thanked 274 Times in 177 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
The RCF will be faster then an LC500.
The LC500 will be more luxurious and more expensive then the RCF
jdmblood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 02:57 PM   #10
hmong337
Emperor JDM
 
hmong337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: '91 MR2 Gen3 3SGTE, '13 FRS
Location: Onterrible, Canada
Posts: 1,748
Thanks: 3,498
Thanked 909 Times in 495 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Interesting. I didn't think Lexus would have the balls to get into the executive luxury coupe market. Hell, they building the RC was a surprise to me.
__________________
hmong337 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 03:13 PM   #11
gymratter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: BMW
Location: TX
Posts: 2,198
Thanks: 1,869
Thanked 1,691 Times in 878 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by hmong337 View Post
Interesting. I didn't think Lexus would have the balls to get into the executive luxury coupe market. Hell, they building the RC was a surprise to me.
They did it once.

gymratter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to gymratter For This Useful Post:
chaoskaze (01-14-2016)
Old 01-13-2016, 06:17 PM   #12
hmong337
Emperor JDM
 
hmong337's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: '91 MR2 Gen3 3SGTE, '13 FRS
Location: Onterrible, Canada
Posts: 1,748
Thanks: 3,498
Thanked 909 Times in 495 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gymratter View Post
They did it once.

Actually, the successor to the SC is the RC. Now as for the LC, that's another ball game.
__________________
hmong337 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 06:41 PM   #13
jaorocks1
Senior Member
 
jaorocks1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Drives: 92 Prelude
Location: San Diego
Posts: 265
Thanks: 8
Thanked 60 Times in 33 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Does it use the RCF engine?
jaorocks1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2016, 07:47 PM   #14
KR-S
Sporadic Member
 
KR-S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S M/T
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,146
Thanks: 5,221
Thanked 3,552 Times in 1,746 Posts
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 33 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaorocks1 View Post
Does it use the RCF engine?
It is stated by Randy Pobst in the video that it indeed uses the RC F 2UR-GSE engine.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by klearfade View Post
Is that gel in your hair?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by HueyLooie View Post
Nah, homes. It's your dadda's hot goopey goop.
KR-S is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lexus RC-F illmatic_frs CANADA 12 11-05-2015 07:17 PM
FR-S vs Lexus RC-F poptopclk FR-S / BRZ vs.... 105 04-01-2015 03:31 PM
New Lexus ES leaked. Who said it's Camry of Lexus? Dark Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 26 02-24-2012 01:34 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.