Fun because drift car?

[sho220]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

I agree to all of you. The biggest reason why i am attracted to the FRS now is it ability to drift without burning money. You can drift on a prius tires lol...cant beat that.

For the 25 millionth time, they're not "prius" tires...

[BlaineWasHere]

My FR-S is a grip car, not a drift car.

[marky]

one word after you test drive it is "WOW" this car is a drivers car..in the end its how your driving style fit on what you want the car to do.. traction control on and it will handle nice on corners.. traction off and sports mode you will get drifting action or if you know how to drive it with it off you can take the car to its limits and be one with the car...knowing when the car will break lose without any help with traction control/computer helping you makes you a good driver thats what its all about and not them high horse power where all you do is push the pedal to the floor and let the horse power shoot you on the straight away..anyone can do that


this is the best car i owned .. light weight with enough HP great MPG and i can drive the car 80/100% most the time and its still great on gas in the end you can tune the car for what you like it.. this car will do both drift and grip that the beauty of this machine

have fun with the test drive..

[regal]

This car is not a drift car.

First due to current and upcoming emissions regulations it has a small displacement boxer engine that doesn't have a ton of torque and horsepower for drifting. So in that regard it is a throwback to '80s sports cars.

But what it has that those cars didn't is an incredibly low center of gravity design in a FR package. Right out of the box it doesn't handle on rails the way a double wishbone car with aftermarket springs/struts does (i.e. S2k, Miata, EG Civic.)

But the stock suspension really surprises you because of the low COG, it isn't a super stiff suspension and is comfortable over potholes, railroad tracks, speed bumps. But it handles amazingly well with the stock suspension, its very unique. It is much more stable at highway speeds than the little double-wishbone cars, it feels more like a Grand Touring car than a sports car, yet it is lightweight and tossable.
Hard to explain, best thing is to drive one, but I know its hard to get a feel for a car at a dealer test drive.

All in all it is a great package, the 6 speed Aisin manual and Torsen rear are expensive pieces for a car in this price bracket.

I fully expected it to handle like on rails with the sharp/harsh suspension and that razor sharp quirkiness at high speeds, but this car manages to redefine good handling and is nothing like that. Its like they took the good handling characteristics of a Supra and combined with an AE86 if that makes any sense. Overall what this car has is excellent balance, something that has disappeared from the market.

[TRD-X]

Agree but they are Prius sized tires......

Originally Posted by sho220

For the 25 millionth time, they're not "prius" tires...

[losjackal]

From the reviews I've seen/read, the FR-S is a smoother ride overall as a daily driver. The BRZ rolls a little more on the track but has a tighter, more predictable feel, whereas the FR-S may whip around more....perhaps making it more "fun" rather than "on rails".

I've test driven FR-S manual, FR-S automatic, and BRZ automatic. I'm ordering a FR-S automatic 10 series. I had more fun in the FR-S's than I did in the BRZ. I'm no expert, so I can't explain it any better.

[CaptainSlow]

Originally Posted by NGNG

Personally I typically like cars that handle like they're on rails. Can the frs still provide that? I guess I'll get an idea for myself soon, but interested in what you guys think beforehand.

That's what the FR-S does. I actually have a really hard time getting it to slide, but I'm used to more torque/hp, coming from a GTO

[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I have found that if you leave the nannie systems (VSC, TRAC) engaged (which is the default), coupled with the ABS (with EBFD & BA), the car will corner and slow down quite nicely.

Be aware that tire pressure can make quite a difference. For examplewith 45 psi (like it was delivered with) it was somewhat skiddish. Whenthe pressures were lowered to 35 psi, it was more stable.

humfrz

yours was delivered with 45 psi?!?! wtf?!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Reviews mention the drift thing because it gives them an excuse to slide around for the camera and get more attention because we are all keen on watching the hoonage.

To me, what makes these cars fun is a lot more than that. Good dynamics, not too heavy, tactile feedback, sporty without sucking down 12mpg. And enough room to actually live with it everyday. Part of my fun experience is carefree feelings and these cars are easy to enjoy.

YMMV. :-)

Spot on!

As far as the handling, I really wanted to calm the tendency to drift down a lot after I put in the supercharger. @CSG Mike was correct, he said all I needed was wider/stickier tires. I had just put some 17x9 RPF1's on with some PSS@245, so I went and powered around some hilly mississippi back roads, and the car was absolutely glued to the ground. I really have to gun it at a corner to get any drift at all. My car handles like it's on rails now! You just need better tires.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by NGNG

I love what the frs and brz is all about and I plan on test driving one this weekend. But after watching the countless video reviews out there, I'm a little curious as to what the core factor is that leads to so many calling it a fun drivers car. It seems like the number one thing that gets referenced is how easily it drifts and how tail happy the car is. Which I'm sure does lead to a lot of fun on the track, but on the street?

Personally I typically like cars that handle like they're on rails. Can the frs still provide that? I guess I'll get an idea for myself soon, but interested in what you guys think beforehand.

If it handles like it's on rails, it means you're not driving it had enough

[Mikem53]

Just drive it and your questions will be answered..

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Pete

Spot on!

As far as the handling, I really wanted to calm the tendency to drift down a lot after I put in the supercharger. @CSG Mike was correct, he said all I needed was wider/stickier tires. I had just put some 17x9 RPF1's on with some PSS@245, so I went and powered around some hilly mississippi back roads, and the car was absolutely glued to the ground. I really have to gun it at a corner to get any drift at all. My car handles like it's on rails now! You just need better tires.

No more desire for coilovers?

I keep telling people... better tires give your car more absolute grip; better suspension will let you use a larger proportion of total potential grip (but only if it's set up properly).

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I keep telling people... better tires give your car more absolute grip; better suspension will let you use a larger proportion of total potential grip (but only if it's set up properly).

Well said. :happy0180:

[RAWR BRZ]

Other than the drive by wire drive train lag my steering is like its on rails