Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[BrahmaBull1990]

Sitting at Safeway for my first poke of Moderna. Hopefully side-effect free

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

According to her the cdc says 10 days after you're free to roam. In the recent past one was expected to present 2 negative test results before reintegration. A friend of mine required numerous tests to do this as his results after 2 weeks were neg, pos, neg, neg. This was a few months ago. He was asymptomatic

Sometimes people need negative tests because work policies differ from CDC guidelines, or corporate policies haven’t updated to CDC’s latest guidelines. The most recent evidence suggests that someone who is sympathetic will stop significantly shedding the virus after ten days. These people can still have a positive test for months. We had nurses working who were symptom free for months but testing positive that whole time.

I believe asymptomatic people are slightly different because they can become symptomatic later, so that delay can shift that timeline forward, but a positive PCR should start the clock in a similar way. These people can show positive tests for months too, but I’m pretty sure it is far less likely that they will.

Just to cover all the basis, exposed people who have a negative test should shelter for quite a while because the onset of symptoms or viral ramping can take a while, and a negative test a week or so after exposure is ideal, but the testing accuracy is only 65%, so two negatives are nicer than one. It isn’t 100%, but it is better than one.

[humfrz]

DANG! I FINALLY reached ..... the end ......or is it just a pause?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by humfrz

DANG! I FINALLY reached ..... the end ......or is it just a pause?

This isn't even my final form

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by humfrz

DANG! I FINALLY reached ..... the end ......or is it just a pause?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

That's politics!!! YOU CAN'T POST THE CAP WITHOUT POLITICS INVOLVED!

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by weederr33

That's politics!!! YOU CAN'T POST THE CAP WITHOUT POLITICS INVOLVED!

Valid.

On a side note, is Johnson & Johnson the same company as AstraZeneca or do all vaccines (except maybe Pfizer?) potentially give you blood clots? Curious if it's the same company or just a similar style of vaccine?

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[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by spike021

Speaking of common cents, I have literal bags of them.

I bet you common cents can't be used here.

[Summerwolf]

Dumb question.... why has the jansen vaccine been halted after six severe side effects when there are more overall side effects being seen / noted with Moderna and Pfizer?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Valid.

On a side note, is Johnson & Johnson the same company as AstraZeneca or do all vaccines (except maybe Pfizer?) potentially give you blood clots? Curious if it's the same company or just a similar style of vaccine?

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Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA type.

Astra Zenica and J&J are an Adenovirus type. This is the more "traditional" type of vaccine.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Dumb question.... why has the jansen vaccine been halted after six severe side effects when there are more overall side effects being seen / noted with Moderna and Pfizer?

Well, because this is a side effect the authorities don't understand since it did not show up in the trials.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Valid.

On a side note, is Johnson & Johnson the same company as AstraZeneca or do all vaccines (except maybe Pfizer?) potentially give you blood clots? Curious if it's the same company or just a similar style of vaccine?

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I thought by now you know the differences. If not, I recommend listening to that podcast I linked earlier this morning (or reading the transcript). It goes into pretty good detail on how the mRNA approach works.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Dumb question.... why has the jansen vaccine been halted after six severe side effects when there are more overall side effects being seen / noted with Moderna and Pfizer?

Without knowing their reasons, my guess is probably severity and exclusion criteria. Blood clots are far worse than an allergic reaction to manage and potentially identify because they could mean a CVA, STEMI or PE, which can be life threatening at worse or potentially permanently debilitating. Like Spuds said, they don’t know, and they need to know the mechanism and be able to identify and exclude people from the vaccine who are susceptible. With the allergic reactions, death and debilitation is far less certain, and it is easier to identify. Most people with PEG allergies will know and those with unknown/unidentified sensitivities won’t go anaphylactic.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Well, because this is a side effect the authorities don't understand since it did not show up in the trials.

Also because that's also a known vector but not with these results. So there are all sorts of potential things to sort out.
Big one so far seems to be that it needs to be treated differently than common blood clot protocol. We'll see.
I'm in for my second tomorrow. So many mixed feelings. Wife gets her second on Saturday. So many people yet to go.