Stopping for stop signs

[kchkwan]

Hey guys
General question on manuals and stoping for a stop sign then lift off again.
Whats the best procedure?

Usually this is what I do, clutch, shift to neutral, brake till full stop, clutch, shift to 1st gear and go

Or on the other hand does anyone do this?
Break to nearly full stop, clutch for full stop, leave in 1st gear, and depress the clutch to lift off.

I know it adds wear and the if the clutch is pressed for too long, but if for method 2, which only lasts 3secs. Is that a big deal?
However, the main idea is, which method is better or is there another?

[brzadrian]

1st method is better, forces u to do a proper stop, and if ur pretty good at driving stick u can just take off immediately anyway, plus no wear and tear from the clutch imo

[fatoni]

i prefer the second method for stop signs simply because youre only stopped for a second. the time it takes to press the clutch pedal twice is probably longer than how long you would press it once. at lights it just depends on the strength of the clutch pedal regarding what i do. either way is not going to make a significant impact on the life of your clutch. i doubt either one is more damaging than when you engage the clutch to start the car every day.

[shawnperolis]

The first method you described is best.

[whtchocla7e]

I hate to admit it but I no longer fully stop at stop signs if there's no one else at the intersection. I do a rolling stop and take off in second.

If I have to stop then I follow the same procedure as you guys.

[Ganthrithor]

I usually downshift until I hit second gear, clutch in when engine drops to ~idle RPMs (I don't like to coast), shift to 1st as I come to a stop (I usually don't like trying to rev match into first), and then accelerate away from the stop in 1st.

Sometimes if it's downhill-ish or a place where I don't want to accelerate quickly anyway I'll start in second. I probably won't do much starting in second in the BRZ though since it doesn't have much torque and would probably involve a lot of clutch slipping.

[andrew20195]

Originally Posted by kchkwan

I know it adds wear and the if the clutch is pressed for too long, but if for method 2, which only lasts 3secs. Is that a big deal?

The additional wear from holding in the clutch pedal is on the clutch release bearing, not the clutch disc itself. Generally, as long as you aren't riding the clutch pedal, your clutch disc will wear out before the bearing (although I'd recommend replacing it along with the clutch.

Personally, it depends on how long I have to wait. If it's a 4 way stop, I generally use method 2. If I'm stopped at a cross street with traffic, I'll use method 1, more for not having to hold the clutch pedal than out of mechanical empathy.

[Soslow]

Gear down down to first, observe for police/traffic, accelerate.

Seriously I probably do the California roll thru 75% of the stop signs I encounter.

[kchkwan]

lol... ever since i started driving manual (2nd day of this yr) i've began to stop at every single one, it seems like it took soo much more focus to pay attention to low speed stalls on first than to completely stop :/

[whaap]

I do both ways. There is no particular formula I follow. I guess it just depends on the day and time and what driving mode I'm in at the time.

[samfrs]

First method but take off in 2nd gear, it's a habit.

[dammitcubs]

What I usually do is that the first method. It also the way I learned to downshift. (by not doing it) lol. It's much harder to downshift smoothly than upshift so if I was worried, i used to put it in Neutral.

You should learn both, because they are both valuable. but my recommendation is that if you know for sure that you are going to stop, just put it in neutral. But it's also good to learn N to a specific gear at a specific speed. I usually use this technique if there was a improper shift and I had to put it in Neutral but I'm coasting and want it back in gear, you have to know how much to blip the throttle.

[cgrey]

Everyone in my area runs stop signs at 25mph+. I seriously count more people running stop signs than stopping. I vote for that.

[Spaceboy]

i thought you should never go into first