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07-14-2020, 02:58 AM | #15 |
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You know what's interesting though? I just replaced the TOB last week and the old one I pulled out... was the revised one. And it only lasted 25k kilometers. Something else must have been wrong with it before I got it. Or I wore it out way ahead of time. And I think it was because of the clutch adjustment mod I found on this forum. I now am in the firm belief that the clutch pedal travel should not at all be adjusted. So when I put the trans back in I adjusted the clutch as per this video:
I used to have big trouble getting into most gears. Doing what this guy says fixed most of my problems |
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If you have trouble going into gears then the pedal probably is indeed too low. I lowered mine but not quite as much as the DIY shows. It’s probably 4-6mm above the brake, not flush with it. 40k miles later and I have no problems besides the original TOB wearing out in the expected time frame. |
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Stinks to hear your revised TOB died so early though. While my trans was apart, I had the shop throw in the Verus forged clutch fork and pivot. If the stock fork flexes as much as Verus indicates, I could see that also contributing to TOB failure. As an update, I'm at 320 miles on the Exedy stage 1 and lwfw. Really loving this setup. It's exactly like I think a stage 1 (or OEM+ setup) should be.
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If you have the know how to pack the sealed bearings. I'd repack the bearing or "top off" with some Honda high temp urea grease. Otherwise just used the urea grease in the areas you can get to.
Not saying its gonna make it last, but its what I did. The last bearing, old version, looks fine but the bearings wear rattling inside and definitely bone dry inside.
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Also if it makes you feel better, I've heard a transmission specialist say that it would take a substantial amount of gear grinding to meaningfully wear your transmission. I wouldn't worry too much about that unless you're really grinding constantly.
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First what have you done for mods?
Second how or where have you been driving? Third did you put a competition setup in and then expect it to be easy on the street? The more aggressive the clutch the harder to start smoothly. This will often lead a driver to try to slip the clutch longer when shifting or starting. This will heat the clutch. Have you ever smelled a burnt order? A lighter flywheel will also make starting a little more difficult. It also sounds like you are getting clutch chatter. Sometimes this is a buildup or over heated flywheel and pressure plate. When you get into the clutch rebuild look for blue patches. Need more info. A side note, I have seen many "good drivers" sit at a light with the clutch pressed not knowing that this will heat up the throw-out bearing and shorten the life. |
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The throw out bearing still continues to be an issue for me, so I think a replacement is inevitable. |
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If you're having trouble with your TOB starting to go have it changed at your earliest convenience. In my line of work I've seen lots of bearings go and when they start to go, they go quickly.
One thing to make sure of too is to purge your brake fluid for your clutch cylinders. Flush it out completely to help improve the consistency of the pedal and make gears easier to grab, especially with the clutch pedal properly adjusted like in the video. That's what worked for me. Unfortunately, whatever condition I bought the vehicle in has seemed to worn the synchros down considerably, as well as taking out the revised TOB. I just ordered a new transmission and the Synchrotech carbon synchros that I'm going to install in the new unit and rebuild it. Gonna be awesome! |
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Has anyone tried the SKF bearing N4111? Seems to be the same part according to Rock Auto.
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What I did was go to my local Toyota dealer and ask for part SU00307349. This is the new TOB and is cheaper through them. I think it cost me $40 CAD So probably $30 USD
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