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02-01-2019, 06:18 AM | #43 |
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I say that in a few years it will be sought after almost like the old Supra. I’ll never get rid of mine. I treat it as a high end Ferrari. Lol.
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Same here. You simply can't get a car like this anymore. I will take mine to the grave. Hope to hit 200k miles with mine.
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There is no "battle", uphill or otherwise. They built a car for a very small market and that market is still buying. They knew it would be a small market and planned accordingly. The revision can really only go two ways. It will either remain much as it is with little change or it will morph into something that may be very different but have the same name. It would not take a major change to alter the characteristics the car has now. That would move the market to a different crowd and then the people that like what it is now will be the ones that walk away.
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A two seat hatch would certainly open up a new subset of buyers but probably not enough to make it a two version car. At least not at a price point that the target audience would pay. If they made just the two seat hatch then they totally close the door on one small group and open it for another. Personal opinions about the usefulness of the back seat aside many would not have bought the car without i. I for one don't use the seat often but when I need it I need it. People would just say that without that back seat it is just a larger, heavier, hard top Miata and it would lose market share. That back seat is a selling point to many of the current owners.
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I think the car is pretty close to the mark style-wise. To my mind improvements would come from development of a transaxle rather than the conventional gearbox and differential. Combining the gearbox with the diff pushes a lot of weight to the back. It means the transmission hump could shrink significantly, allowing the front seats to be moved closer together without blowing foot room. While they’re at it they could further lower the seats, and knock 5cm off the bonnet height and roof height. Then they could put the car on a serious diet, and get it under a tonne stock.
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With Ford and GM abadoning the car market in favor of Crossovers SUVs and trucks, I am hoping that Toyota/Subaru will see that there is still a market for people who would rather drive nimble and sporty cars and keep producing the 86 or something like it for the foreseeable future.
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FD RX7s only just began to go up in value. You can pick one up for $15-20k, and they are hard to find.
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Forget in the future, it is very hard to find a clean used example, even today. Finding a low mileage, unmolested, manual gearbox with clean title? Those will be VERY hard to find. That does not mean they will spike in value, however, since demand was never big in the first place. |
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Doesn't matter because the cars will still not be worth shit even when time passes. They just don't have the same mystic or rep that the Supra or others that have gone up in value to stupid levels do. You can buy a 73 240Z now for around $30K. This sounds cool until you consider that to get that kind of money you can't drive the car and still have to store it and pay for upkeep for decades. In the end you would have lost a shitload on it. So buy an 86. Immediately park it in a climate controlled location (removing this location for other uses and still paying for it). Don't ever, ever put miles on it. Change the oil at regular intervals. Put new tires on it once a decade or so. Run it long enough (without moving it) to burn off all moisture in the system about once a month. Do this for 40 years and then sell it for $50K. Oh wait... that is $50K after 40 years of inflation so numerically it gained value but in reality you probably made under $40K in 2019 dollars. Probably put $10K into it over those years. So now you are lucky to break even. All you can do is hope that it is featured in a block buster movie and video games at some point before you have stored it too long so that a bunch of guys that have never driven one all of a sudden lust after them.
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Even the fabled 90s Supra, that is finally starting to reach collector prices, is not getting much more than its original selling price when you take inflation into account.
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