SCCA Solo D Street discussion

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Biggins

Unless the rules change again to favor our cars in "Street," STX and SSC are the places where our cars are on the most level playing field.

That's probably not going to happen until the current ES cars age out and become too old and expensive to be competitive cars, the new ES will be the old CS - NC Miatas, RX8's, FRZ, and 350Z's.

Or a radical upheaval in Street categories.

It'll be a hard sell, but at some point decades old Civic's and Miata's won't be viable competition cars any more, unfortunately it'll be a legislative decision unless STS and ES numbers begin to seriously decline soon.

[j3rf]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Wahoo! Won DS yesterday in Cincy SCCA's fun event.

What you don't see is the STI, Golf R, and Velocitor N that were almost 2 seconds faster but running in index classes...

Oh hi! Didn't know you were on here too! lol. Good to meet you.

Back on topic, this will be my first year doing (mostly) a full season. Hopefully I will do better than I did on Sunday. Gotta learn somehow!

[TMF]

Originally Posted by steverife

So we aren't supposed to discuss autocross competitiveness in the DS class thread in the autocross forum?

...plus most of us are still saying it is a viable option to do well in its class.

Nope, not allowed :p

I was over generalizing a bit as I get perturbed by the people that think autox'ing these cars is pointless and have no chance.

Get Koni's/MCS, sway bar, RE71's, and a ton of seat time and go get 'em!

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by j3rf

Oh hi! Didn't know you were on here too! lol. Good to meet you.

Back on topic, this will be my first year doing (mostly) a full season. Hopefully I will do better than I did on Sunday. Gotta learn somehow!

Hey there! Yeah, I only made it to 2 events last year and was bummed about it. Summer weekend fill up fast lol. Planning on prioritizing these a bit more this year.

I meant to ask you at the event, but what kin of tires do you have?

[steverife]

Originally Posted by TMF

Nope, not allowed :p

I was over generalizing a bit as I get perturbed by the people that think autox'ing these cars is pointless and have no chance.

Get Koni's/MCS, sway bar, RE71's, and a ton of seat time and go get 'em!

On the other hand, if you like Pro Solos or maybe run courses that have tight digs and do have to run against some of the higher power stuff, it is going to be frustrating.

...especially when you do have SSC and STX as options.

[j3rf]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Hey there! Yeah, I only made it to 2 events last year and was bummed about it. Summer weekend fill up fast lol. Planning on prioritizing these a bit more this year.

I meant to ask you at the event, but what kin of tires do you have?

Unfortunately still on Primacy HP. Have some Hankook Ventus Evo2 street tires to out on but seems RE71Rs are the way to go for dedicated autocross tires. I do have a spare set of wheels to put them on too.

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by j3rf

Unfortunately still on Primacy HP. Have some Hankook Ventus Evo2 street tires to out on but seems RE71Rs are the way to go for dedicated autocross tires. I do have a spare set of wheels to put them on too.

Re71r are the crème le crop for autox

that said your Rival 2's and the V720's from Kumho will give you enar the same performance. they are all top tire rack tested tires

me personally? unless you are competitive and want the best of the best of the best

get the Federal 595 RS-RR. half the cost of an re71r and will last near the full season and get you 4/5ths the grip of the Potenza i run em for practice days where im more focusing on the chassis'd grip and my input than all out time attack

[j3rf]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

Re71r are the crème le crop for autox



that said your Rival 2's and the V720's from Kumho will give you enar the same performance. they are all top tire rack tested tires



me personally? unless you are competitive and want the best of the best of the best



get the Federal 595 RS-RR. half the cost of an re71r and will last near the full season and get you 4/5ths the grip of the Potenza i run em for practice days where im more focusing on the chassis'd grip and my input than all out time attack

I don't see Rivals or V720s in a 215 though. 225 yes. Wasn't sure about going 225 on a stock 7.5" wide wheel?

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[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by j3rf

I don't see Rivals or V720s in a 215 though. 225 yes. Wasn't sure about going 225 on a stock 7.5" wide wheel?

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I run a 225-40-18 on my 18x7s. nice flat sidewall too.

you can run a 235 on your 7.5 rims. should you ned. no worries. 1010tires has a good visual calculator you can play with sizes to make sure you roverall diameter is close to what you have now. or if yo uwant to go taller or shorter on sidewall.

i think a standard wide rim is 225 45 17?

[Biggins]

Originally Posted by j3rf

I don't see Rivals or V720s in a 215 though. 225 yes. Wasn't sure about going 225 on a stock 7.5" wide wheel?

The stock wheels are only 7" wide, but you can fit up to 245 on them. I like the feel of 225s which is what I run now, but I've run all four widths from 215-245 in CS/DS. Also, I'd stick to the Bridgestone RE71R or BFG Rival S 1.5. If you're really on a budget, go for the Federals.

[Roadphantom]

For starters, I would do autox tires first with the oem crash bolts ($10 or something) for max camber. Do the front sway bar after or at the same time and all the big game changer mods are done. About shocks, I found that the oem Showa are well up to task and even arguably better than Koni yellows (more compression than Koni).

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[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by j3rf

Unfortunately still on Primacy HP. Have some Hankook Ventus Evo2 street tires to out on but seems RE71Rs are the way to go for dedicated autocross tires. I do have a spare set of wheels to put them on too.

I had the Ventus V12s for a while and they are pretty nice for daily driving in the summer. They aren't too bad for AutoX, leaps and bounds better than the stock tires and last much longer than a lot of the 200TW tires. The RE71R's are known as the best, but as mentioned, ythey wear pretty fast

I've got a set of 215/45 Falken Azenis 615K+ now and they are pretty nice. It's up there with the grippy boys, but since I daily the car with them I'd like them to last just a tad longer. So far it seems to be going well. Plus I love the tread pattern When I eventually get new tires I'll probably go 225/45 and maybe back to the Maxxis Victra VR1 which I had when I was setup for STX.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

Re71r are the crème le crop for autox

that said your Rival 2's and the V720's from Kumho will give you enar the same performance. they are all top tire rack tested tires

me personally? unless you are competitive and want the best of the best of the best

get the Federal 595 RS-RR. half the cost of an re71r and will last near the full season and get you 4/5ths the grip of the Potenza i run em for practice days where im more focusing on the chassis'd grip and my input than all out time attack

Originally Posted by Biggins

The stock wheels are only 7" wide, but you can fit up to 245 on them. I like the feel of 225s which is what I run now, but I've run all four widths from 215-245 in CS/DS. Also, I'd stick to the Bridgestone RE71R or BFG Rival S 1.5. If you're really on a budget, go for the Federals.

The issue with the Federal 595RSRR's are that they are HELLA LOUD on the street. If you DD your car, they will drive you nuts. They are not good in the wet either. Otherwise they are still a very grippy tire, stand up well to heat, and are inexpensive.

[Clutch Dog]

Most your 200TW tires are hella loud, even the Kumho's