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Old 11-09-2019, 07:05 PM   #1317
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Itís not BS. There is a registry thread on here somewhere for people with spun bearing on the 2013 with very low mileage. I think Tcoat is just tossing out the number 30. Could be more, could be less but somewhere around 30 sounds about right. My completely stock 2013 spun number 3 at 84k miles. Iím not the original owner so I canít say for sure they didnít run it low on oil or something dumb like that.
I had about 30 that had been reported on her on a spread sheet when I bothered tracking the threads. About 4 or 5 of those that spun bearing were of dubious history (like the dude that didn't check his oil in over a year) and I did not count any that had been turboed or had heavy engine mods. The other 25 or 26 all had almost exactly the same story. They were early 13s with low miles, regular maintenance and failure without warning. Of those failures excessive sealant was found in 18 or 19 (including yours even if it was just a return). Eventually the reports stopped and since it did not go beyond the early 13s I breathed a sigh of relief and deleted my spreadsheet. My memory of the numbers may be off by one or two but it was close enough to 30 to say it. I still maintain that the person or robot that applied the sealant to that first run of car screwed up in the same manner that the techs did in the recall. It may have been interment growing pains but they had to be aware of it.
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:07 PM   #1318
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Recall spreadsheet

Here's a link to the spreadsheet that was being maintained if this is what people are referencing.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...zow/edit#gid=0
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Here's a link to the spreadsheet that was being maintained if this is what people are referencing.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...zow/edit#gid=0
Looks like the dealers covered many of them. Also a bunch that were never updated so we don't know but I would think that if denied we would have heard back.
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Here's a link to the spreadsheet that was being maintained if this is what people are referencing.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...zow/edit#gid=0

Just to be clear, Tcoats assertion was ~30 pre-recall, that spread sheet is all post recall with 3 that has 0 miles in the after recall field. I am still unable to verify the ~30 pre-recall claim myself.
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:55 PM   #1323
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I looked around before posting this question. I hope some can help. My tags is due here California. My car has been reflashed with OFT and has a set of UEL headers. For me to obtain the tag I have get the recall done. Would I have set the car bar back to stock? It clearly states ďJ02 Emissions emissionsĒ tha k you for the help in advance


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Does anyone know if the tech manuals have been updated for the valve spring recalls? I'm past 100k and have avoided the recall but now I'm having a burning oil smell and wondering if I should just have it done to have the gaskets replaced. I haven't had a single issue with the car yet and I certainly don't want to go down the rabbit hole of repair mishaps like the stories I've seen here.
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Does anyone know if the tech manuals have been updated for the valve spring recalls? I'm past 100k and have avoided the recall but now I'm having a burning oil smell and wondering if I should just have it done to have the gaskets replaced. I haven't had a single issue with the car yet and I certainly don't want to go down the rabbit hole of repair mishaps like the stories I've seen here.
Sorry, I can't comment on the rev# for valve spring replacement protocol, but you stated pretty much the primary reason I got mine done.

Got the car at 42k miles. Dripping oil at the cam plate cover thingy. Got kinda icky when driving it hard.
Car was due for an oil change, and thought new coolant courtesy of Toyota was kinda neat, so I took my car in.
Oil leak fixed!
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Just to be clear, Tcoats assertion was ~30 pre-recall, that spread sheet is all post recall with 3 that has 0 miles in the after recall field. I am still unable to verify the ~30 pre-recall claim myself.
The pre recall reports of bearing failure were spread across about 10 (or more) different threads. It will take some serious digging to find them buried among all the newer threads.
Between late 2014 to early 2017 I did keep a spreadsheet but when they sort of tapered off I stopped tracking since it looked like those that were going to fail had and any further ones would still match the pattern. Almost all the failures were early 13s which had had leaks right from the factory and ended up spinning a bearing. The majority of the bearings were the #4 but a couple did have others. Many of the reports included comments or pictures of excessive sealant in different areas. Some of this sealant was extreme and clearly blocking channels.
I put forth a theory that the robots were not set up well during at least one engine run and applied too much sealant and as a result the oil flow on some was reduced. The obvious blocked passages were one way it was reduced but there could also have been small pieces that broke off when the engine was assembled. If these small pieces broke off after the pick up filter they could easily make their way to the bearing channels themselves and block flow. You would never even know it was happening until the bearing dried up and spun since there would be no drop in pressure over the whole system.
All in all the results and the root cause of the pre recall failures line up exactly with the post recall ones with the exception that pre were robots that screwed up and post were people.


Look at post #53 here https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...t=81002&page=4
Most of this one (including the dissenters that changed their mind when the recall failures started for the same reason) https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...=122464&page=4


Another 13 but everybody went chasing ghosts instead of the ovious issue http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127599


Pretty much my whole case in the first post here but again people had to look for some mystery cause https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107959


I will dig up more later.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:30 AM   #1327
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Iím at a loss... 3 weeks after dealership performed recall work, in traffic at a stop light. Light goes green, about 2nd gear in and car just shuts off and I coast off immediately to the right and have to push the car the rest of the way into a firehouse driveway. Fast forward, Subaru of Puyallup dealership and Subaru of America determine rod knock and repair will cost $17,000 and that recall work has no correlation to the failure. A goodwill gesture $2,000 owner loyalty coupon is offered and later, $2,500 is the best they could do towards a new car, not even a used. They canít tell me the cause and say that it can just happen. I request pictures and Dealership says I can take my own. I take pictures and present it in email to Subaru of America and they say this is an issue between the Dealership and myself. Does anyone have any contacts that can escalate help with Subaru? I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:23 AM   #1328
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I Fast forward, Subaru of Puyallup dealership and Subaru of America determine rod knock and repair will cost $17,000 and that recall work has no correlation to the failure.
What are they planning to do for $17,000 that does not involve manufacturing a new car?
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What are they planning to do for $17,000 that does not involve manufacturing a new car?
I was wondering that myself since the "normal" rate seems to be between $5K and $7K.
Maybe they have a spare 2JZ kicking around the shop they ware going to swap into it.
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What are they planning to do for $17,000 that does not involve manufacturing a new car?
I was quoted a bit over $13k for a complete engine, fwiw. Similar scenario as that poster for me, SoA says itís between the dealer and myself, dealer says it canít possibly be related (not that that makes any sense).
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