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There will be no AWD version of this car, for two reasons:
1. Toyota did not set out to build an awd... The intent from day one was a lightweight rwd coupe, which they have done. AWD adds extra weight and complication to what was always intended to be a simple, easy to throw around fun machine... Such is the spirit of the original AE86. Further evidence of this ethos can be extrapolated from Subaru Au's spokesman when he mentioned the convertible version... Hinting at the exact vehicle the FT86 was built to compete with, The MX-5/Miata, which has not nor will ever have awd, because Mazda believe in keeping it true to the classic sportscar formula of light weight and rwd. 2. Subaru already have an awd performance car, its called the Impreza. Why would they invest millions into R&D developing a new awd performance vehicle when it would only be competing within the exact same market segment! I highly doubt there will even BE a Subaru version, at all, anywhere. |
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It sounds as though there are no plans for AWD, and for the Aussie market, it's too risky to bring it over if they demand AWD, as there won't be one.
Subaru doesn't have that "problem" here except in the minds of fans. Also, keep in mind an AWD version will be essentially a totally differnet car -- different weight, different specs, just totally different. Also, when they ripped the AWD out of the Impreza test car, they shortend the chassis -- will an AWD system even fit in an 086A without a different chassis? |
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I'm wondering though, does this mean that Toyota has done most of its racetrack development/testing of the FT-86 already? I don't remember seeing a FT-86 mule spy video or anything.
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You're all missing the point.
THERE IS NO SUBARU VERSION From the outset, rumours of a Subaru version have been nothing but that.... Rumours. The fact that the test mule is wearing subaru sheetmetal is irrelevant. I mean the car IS based on a Subaru floorpan, wouldn't it make sense to use a Subaru body for testing until the final production sheetmetal is developed? Toyota is simply utilising its investment in FHI to maximum advantage. I'll say it again... For the evidently slow people. There is no Subaru 086A. Just because its a Joint venture between Subaru and Toyota does not mean there will be two cars. |
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Even though there's a lot of BS in car magazines, I'm a lot more inclined to believe what automotive journalists say than some random guy on the internet. Do you have an inside line with the manufacturers? Do you talk to the chief engineers yourself?
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^ good point, but there have been some speculation of the subie model in the spy shots not having enough room for an AWD setup, which would indicate otherwise (a new subie in the mix)
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I can assure the 'journalists' (and use that word loosely) generally speaking have much less of an idea what's going on than the general public (us) do. Most are reactive to public interest, not proactive in seeking fact.
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so the general public has MORE of an idea of what's going on than journalists? bro you are losing credibility really fast. automotive journalists that work for credible sources have connections to manufacturer insiders because of their vocations and often have friends and acquaintances that are chief engineers/product development guys that work for the carmakers. many times their info comes from interviews with these people. they also get press releases and first drives well in advance of the general public. and yet, somehow the general public is MORE knowledgeable than these journalists? give me a break.
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