All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Some of the "more knowledgeable" contributors here are full of shit about 90% of the time so that is not a reference for their qualifications.

We will eventually get some more FACTS and see what is what.

Your problem is that you see anything other than "official" manufacturer specs as bogus, and tend to see "official" manufacturer specs as gospel.

Usually I don't believe official factory numbers until they're independently verified myself... Particularly curb weights and weight distribution (latter of which the official numbers have *always* been more optimistic than reality).

In any case, we are here on these forums to talk about cars, share our thoughts, and yes, at times to speculate a bit. If that bugs you so much why not just hang out at the Subaru and Toyota sites all day and wait for "official" info to be "officially" disbursed?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL we dodn't even know what the actual new COG is beyond "hyper car". We could be debating a few millimeters.

That was my immediate thought. The current model's CG was already just 46 centimeters (18 inches). Given that it can't be below the bottom of the car, there isn't a lot of room for movement there and still be road driveable.

[Lantanafrs2]

My first mod will be a light weight crank pulley.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

My first mod will be a light weight crank pulley.

Oh dude you do not want to jump straight to a 400HP equivalency!

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh dude you do not want to jump straight to a 400HP equivalency!

Would it raise the center of gravity?

[Lelandjt]

Anyone else stoked to see the wing replaced with the duck tail? I expected it but was still happy to see it.
Anyone else notice that the BASE new Civic has a turbo and more power? I get all their arguments but as the rest of the industry marches forward this car will still feel comparatively underpowered, even with the new stronger engine, and ESPECIALLY at altitude. I need to test drive it at home between 9,000-11,000ft before buying to see if it has enough torque to break the tires loose in 2nd gear without a clutch pop.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Would it raise the center of gravity?

Well it depends on where it falls in height on the car. If above the line it will lower it. If below the line raise it. My knowledgeable assessment it is would raise or lower it .00000001 MM.
Data for this assessment was pulled outta my ass so 100% correct!

[Cephas]

Did I see somewhere that the Base trim will still have 17s? I feel like 18s on this platform end up with too little rubber for regular streets.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Anyone else stoked to see the wing replaced with the duck tail? I expected it but was still happy to see it.
Anyone else notice that the BASE new Civic has a turbo and more power? I get all their arguments but as the rest of the industry marches forward this car will still feel comparatively underpowered, even with the new stronger engine, and ESPECIALLY at altitude. I need to test drive it at home between 9,000-11,000ft before buying to see if it has enough torque to break the tires loose in 2nd gear without a clutch pop.

My 137hp Scion IM doesnt feel underpowered to me........
unless im going up a hill in 5th gear (i'd have to drop it to 3rd)

Then again im only 3500ft above sea level.....

Or maybe im just a sloth in real life.....

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Neither are assumptions or random guesses. If I have to choose one set of data it will be the set provided by the manufacturer.

We will see what is what when we finally get a road clearance number.

The press release states the wheelbase increased by 0.02", which is inaccurate. Ditto the typo regarding the height delta. Like @ZDan said; press releases are occasionally incorrect, this isn't news. The press release even says it in bold:


"Preliminary Specifications. All data estimated and not final."



Reading the quotes you've taken out of the press release tells me you're searching for words to support a conclusion instead of inferring the most probable answers. Relax, the "final answers" will come in 9 months or so.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Anyone else stoked to see the wing replaced with the duck tail? I expected it but was still happy to see it.
Anyone else notice that the BASE new Civic has a turbo and more power? I get all their arguments but as the rest of the industry marches forward this car will still feel comparatively underpowered, even with the new stronger engine, and ESPECIALLY at altitude. I need to test drive it at home between 9,000-11,000ft before buying to see if it has enough torque to break the tires loose in 2nd gear without a clutch pop.

I like the the ducktail but it will seriously mess with anybody wanting to add a wing. May see some really goofy looking combos.

Who cares if the base Civic has more power? A quick look shows the base has a blistering 0 to 60 of 8.1. Even the R is only 5 and the only one that I would expect to be better than the Gen2.
Stop playing the HP numbers game and look at the whole picture.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Anyone else stoked to see the wing replaced with the duck tail? I expected it but was still happy to see it.
Anyone else notice that the BASE new Civic has a turbo and more power? I get all their arguments but as the rest of the industry marches forward this car will still feel comparatively underpowered, even with the new stronger engine, and ESPECIALLY at altitude. I need to test drive it at home between 9,000-11,000ft before buying to see if it has enough torque to break the tires loose in 2nd gear without a clutch pop.

Ooh, we have a contributor from Breck. Is this Brandon, by chance?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cephas

Did I see somewhere that the Base trim will still have 17s? I feel like 18s on this platform end up with too little rubber for regular streets.

From release info at the start of this thread.
"Wheels 17-inch aluminum alloy on Premium"

Did anybody else actually READ that info?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Dake

Yeah. I managed to do this quick and dirty overlay, and it's not that they smoothed away the wheel arches but that they raised the entire hood surface to the height of the original humps - and then added length to the nose ahead of the wheel. All of which makes it look less dynamic imo.

I'm glad I did this though because I kept thinking they were exaggerating when they talked about a "significant redesign", but I guess the rear u-body really does have quite a few differences. The door cut out is different, and the Hoffmeister kink is much more pronounced on the newer car.

It'd be cool if someone could do one of those cool sliders where you could easily go back and forth - but I don't know how to do that.

The overlay is confusing me more than helping. I already recognized the hood was raised more than the fenders were lowered, but the layover has the old gen protruding further out the back and is ghosted over the new gen, but the front looks like the old gen is dark and the new gen is ghosted. The bumper looks oddly cut off. The new gen is longer slightly than the old gen. Better than I can do.