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Agreed. An air:oil cooler is much better at shedding heat, but to keep it streetable in cold weather, the cost of extra parts plus the basic kit itself make it a much larger financial pill to swallow. If the car is a dedicated track rat, then I'd do it, but if you're going to daily it and only hit 3-4 track days/year, then the NED setup seems a better solution when you factor in cost, plus the added bonus of getting the oil to operating temps quicker. Everything is a compromise in some way...
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True, but at ~$900 plus shipping, it's the most expensive solution yet. But if you're buying, I'll take two.
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I have the STI OEM oil cooler but I don't think it is helping enough with my FI engine. |
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Haha.... oil pressure. Variable valve timing is driven hydraulically.
But, yes. No matter what the oil temp, change it and the filter regularly and don't run your oil level too low (or too high!) And enjoy a good cup of cappuccino every now and then.
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OP is NA, so issues associated with FI don't apply here. The JR radiator is nice quality, I'm sure, but for that money he could get a Koyo or Mishimoto radiator AND the NED setup and still have money left over for a couple of trackdays...
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But it's OP's engine. Like I said, simple data logging would give the definitive answer. No need to upgrade the radiator on this car as nobody seems to have hit its limit yet |
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I'll stick to the cuppa. And the machine has a leak somewhere, I'm guessing at the heating element again. Gotta roast more decaf too, I like it shaken over ice with a bit of goldschlager and bailey's and kahlua in the mix, but I'm out... boo. |
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Radiator upgrade alone will not help on track. What's needed on track is, first of all, an effective oil cooler. AND NED setup is not sufficient for track, even for NA. These are discussed and confirmed so many times in this forum. I wouldn't risk my engine to save just a few hundred bucks.
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Just thought I'd throw in the 2017 UK has an oil temp gauge and it stabilises just over 90*C and pretty much stays there. I haven't ragged the car yet though. When the 1000 miles are up I'll get to pin it to the red line a few times and see if the oil temp rises much.
As to reliability mods. Velcro sticky strips for the rattles would be good.
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Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying the NED does a better job of cooling oil than a more expensive air:oil unit. I'm simply saying that for someone with an NA motor and NO oil cooler at the moment, the NED cooler is the best value in terms of price versus effectiveness. And as far as 'risking' the engine goes, you seem to be willing to risk your motor and the rest of the driveline by going forced induction, so be careful in that glass house.
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I know Mitsubishi's EVOs had a more frequent maintenance schedule than the simple Lancer, same with the STi version of the Impreza. |
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