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Old 05-12-2021, 11:31 AM   #169
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I personally would wait until you get the motor in there. K series motors have a way of turning people onto the all motor idea. A ported k24a2 head with a nice set of cams and upgraded valve springs/retainers will easily get you close to 300 (assuming you run the Kpower IM, header, haltech, cam gear, etc.).
So much truth to this. There is just something magical about Honda NA engines. I drove my S2K last week and was quickly reminded how enjoyable the VTEC powerplants are. I dream about doing a K24 conversion with my 86 but the problem is insuring the car afterwards might be a problem with such extensive modifications. I will have to look into that more.
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Like I said before, my build and this car is more classic GT than a sports coupe. If I was doing this to a Lotus or Miata then I would probably stay NA for the purity and throttle response, but at this weight, it needs a turbo. I’m sure NA will be fun, but I would always want more power. At least with this route, I’ll have some time NA.
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damn Jzilla is doing a track day at VIR in September.....I pray to the track day gods this kit will be out and I will be running by then.
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Old 05-12-2021, 08:35 PM   #172
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damn Jzilla is doing a track day at VIR in September.....I pray to the track day gods this kit will be out and I will be running by then.
Hopefully they follow through with their timeline, which unofficially is preorders next month and releasing the kit one month later in July.
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Like I said before, my build and this car is more classic GT than a sports coupe. If I was doing this to a Lotus or Miata then I would probably stay NA for the purity and throttle response, but at this weight, it needs a turbo. I’m sure NA will be fun, but I would always want more power. At least with this route, I’ll have some time NA.
You build your build for you and your desires. I believe Petah was speaking for his own personal feelings on the subject. As a former dc5 owner and having torn into the head of the k20a2, I have my own inclinations towards the high revving NA power of the k series. There is so much potential its shocking. That said, how I approach power gains for the FA20 versus how I would approach a k24a2 is completely different.
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Hopefully they follow through with their timeline, which unofficially is preorders next month and releasing the kit one month later in July.
Any idea on the price?
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Any idea on the price?
They won't release pricing until its market ready.
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Any idea on the price?
I asked them, while saying I wasn’t expecting them to reveal much. They said similar to the packages for the Miata swas, which doesn’t say much except that there will be different tiers and pricing above $5k for the ultimate package. Here are the components I am expecting to come from them:

KPower Oil Pan
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Haltech Elite 1500
AC lines/conversion kit
Fuel Rail

They said they will be producing supporting products for a turbo or supercharger, and they are working on a BMW transmission conversion.
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Does Zach tune K24s on Haltech or FA20s only ECUTEK? I will need a dyno and a tuner in the Bay Area hopefully by the end of summer.
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Does Zach tune K24s on Haltech or FA20s only ECUTEK? I will need a dyno and a tuner in the Bay Area hopefully by the end of summer.
Sure does

There was a guy who got a K running on the FA20 ECU. Thread has since been nuked.... but imagine if that was standardized....
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I asked them, while saying I wasn’t expecting them to reveal much. They said similar to the packages for the Miata swas, which doesn’t say much except that there will be different tiers and pricing above $5k for the ultimate package. Here are the components I am expecting to come from them:

KPower Oil Pan
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Aluminum Driveshaft
Hydraulic TOB
Engine Harness
Haltech/CANBUS Converter/software/base tune
Headers
Coolant Pipes
Misc clamps, hoses, etc

There are other items that could be purchased from them or from somewhere else, and if it is from them then it could be in the package or on the side:

RSX Oil Pump
Haltech Elite 1500
AC lines/conversion kit
Fuel Rail

They said they will be producing supporting products for a turbo or supercharger, and they are working on a BMW transmission conversion.
Does the kit come with the vtc gear? If it comes with a tune then this would definitely change things up. Might be one of those options at check out.
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Thanks. I think overall, just for the swap parts, we are looking at about $7-8k plus the engine. I guess the engine build can add up quickly if you want head work, cams, valvetrain. Sounds like this is indeed an expensive swap.


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I asked them, while saying I wasn’t expecting them to reveal much. They said similar to the packages for the Miata swas, which doesn’t say much except that there will be different tiers and pricing above $5k for the ultimate package. Here are the components I am expecting to come from them:

KPower Oil Pan
KPower Intake Manifold
KPower Engine Mounts
KPower Transmission Mounts
KPower Transmission Adapter
KPower Shifter Adapter/Carrier
Aluminum Driveshaft
Hydraulic TOB
Engine Harness
Haltech/CANBUS Converter/software/base tune
Headers
Coolant Pipes
Misc clamps, hoses, etc

There are other items that could be purchased from them or from somewhere else, and if it is from them then it could be in the package or on the side:

RSX Oil Pump
Haltech Elite 1500
AC lines/conversion kit
Fuel Rail

They said they will be producing supporting products for a turbo or supercharger, and they are working on a BMW transmission conversion.
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I always hoped that this was an option, it will also retain all of factory reliability and options. Again, we can always hope.

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There was a guy who got a K running on the FA20 ECU. Thread has since been nuked.... but imagine if that was standardized....
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Does the kit come with the vtc gear? If it comes with a tune then this would definitely change things up. Might be one of those options at check out.
I have no idea what it comes standard with, but they do sell the 50 degree VTC gear alone and as parts of engine refresher kits. They also can add and subtract parts from kits and adjust the prices, they told me, so if the swap kits all have a header, but someone is going turbo then that could be omitted and tge price adjusted.

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