2019 Fiesta ST or 2019 Subaru BRZ

[Sgaldi]

Yesterday some guy in a 328i with a annoyingly loud exhaust was revving on me at a light, but when it turned green I leaped in front of him then got far enough ahead to switch into his lane and get in the suicide lane to make a u-turn since I had passed my destination to play with him

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Like I said driver makes a huge difference...either your skilled at driving a stick or you good enough to get around town

Dude... you can drive as good as you want to. A faster car will still be faster.

Talking about driver mod like it will send this car in to another realm of performance. Jfc.

[Sgaldi]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Dude... you can drive as good as you want to. A faster car will still be faster.

Talking about driver mod like it will send this car in to another realm of performance. Jfc.

Cause the fiesta isn’t like insanely faster...and there are a lot of cars that are way slower than it...that’s what I’m saying...iv beat a lot of cars that I’ve seen people on here say the BRZ is slower than, I dunno maybe I got a special one from the factory ? Or maybe it’s cause the people saying it’s slower than said cars are the people making YouTube videos that clearly don’t know how to drive

[Lantanafrs2]

Fiesta st is slower than 86. Might feel quicker but it's not. Both cars are slow. Pray for a tailwind

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Cause the fiesta isn’t like insanely faster...and there are a lot of cars that are way slower than it...that’s what I’m saying...iv beat a lot of cars that I’ve seen people on here say the BRZ is slower than, I dunno maybe I got a special one from the factory ? Or maybe it’s cause the people saying it’s slower than said cars are the people making YouTube videos that clearly don’t know how to drive

No... this is what you're saying.

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Those kinds of numbers are where the driver matters more ...I will smoke a auto Camry every time no doubt

Anyways, you talking like this makes me believe you're someone who cannot actually drive. What are you doing, stop light racing everyone you can??? 99% of those people aren't racing, guy. No one cares how quick you think your car is, you don't have a factory freak, come back to reality.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Fiesta st is slower than 86. Might feel quicker but it's not. Both cars are slow. Pray for a tailwind

They have damn near identical straight line numbers (0-60 and 1/4) according to multiple sources. The first gen at least. Both these cars are slow, and I'm not even sure why this thread went down straight line performance.

Easily put the fiesta has a more accessible mid range which will make it feel and act quicker around town and in most circumstances. To get any power out of the brz or frs you're winding the motor out, and it's a little lazy getting there.

If it were between an auto twin or a manual fiesta, especially with the family concerns thrown in.... it seems like an obvious choice.

[Lantanafrs2]

These cars were designed for driving experience. They'll make you feel like a champ but you might notice that the scenery isn't going by that fast.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Quasimofo

You can either tolerate FWD or not. Personally, I don't give a shit what a magazine says; FWD always feels like ass. Anyone trying to compare the two on handling merits is fooling themselves.

That's cute you think that. Thankfully we have people that do this for a living that we can actually trust instead of listening to people like you.


The Fiesta ST has been named one of the best drivers cars period, by people that have actually driven all of them.

[Quasimofo]

Originally Posted by why?

That's cute you think that. Thankfully we have people that do this for a living that we can actually trust instead of listening to people like you.


The Fiesta ST has been named one of the best drivers cars period, by people that have actually driven all of them.

FWD is trash.
Strap as many driver aids and diff tricks and special braking algorithms on it as you want, because you're gonna need 'em.

[Sgaldi]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

No... this is what you're saying.



Anyways, you talking like this makes me believe you're someone who cannot actually drive. What are you doing, stop light racing everyone you can??? 99% of those people aren't racing, guy. No one cares how quick you think your car is, you don't have a factory freak, come back to reality.

I only play with people that rev their engines at me and want to race, so yes 100% of them were racing with me, and like I said there is no shortage of people wanting to jump the light with you in these cars so sometimes I like to have fun, and I couldnt care less if you think I can’t drive

[korhun]

I have convinced my wife and decided to buy that Subaru BRZ. I've come to this decision not because I'm a RWD fan or I think I can beat every BMWs on every traffic lights with BRZ. I've come to this decision, because I want a car that I would respect. I respect the idea behind building the twins. I recommend everybody to watch the "Subaru BRZ Development Movie" videos.

FiST may be a better car, but I think Subaru BRZ is what I need. Thank you very much to everybody that share their thoughts.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

I only play with people that rev their engines at me and want to race, so yes 100% of them were racing with me, and like I said there is no shortage of people wanting to jump the light with you in these cars so sometimes I like to have fun, and I couldnt care less if you think I can’t drive

K.

[chaoskaze]

Originally Posted by korhun

I'm thinking of buying a new car. These are my options:



Ford Fiesta ST Mk8 (with LSD option)

Subaru BRZ (automatic transmission, its the only option here)



I'm 1.84cm tall and around 122kg. Fat for these cars I know

I'll use it almost every day, mainly on low traffic areas, half nice village roads, half highway (autobahn.) (I make ~25000 km a year)

Cargo space and fuel consumption is important (... for my wife ... who rules the earth! )

I love karting and want a car that would give me some feelings like a go-kart does.

Winters are around 0 to -10 degree Celsius here, and it snows for a month or so, every year.

I'm not a fan of how FiST looks. I'm in love with Subaru BRZ. It gives me similar feelings when I look at a Ferrari 360 Modena. But I just want choose the one that I would have more fun while driving it.



It is impossible to have a test drive these cars in where I live. I haven't seen a Fiesta ST yet but sat inside a BRZ. Its driving position was really nice, but I would want the steering wheel could be extended more, I like it closer.



I don't have much experience on RWD cars, except karting. In driving simulations, I like to choose FWD cars more; and drifting is not my thing. However I like making some donuts when it snows.



I will not modify the car. I want to use it the way it is designed.



Any thoughts are very appreciated.

Get the focus, the new one look much better then the old one & it’s not even available in the state. If you are not gonna mod your car, you should get get the 86 especially an automatic.


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[why?]

Originally Posted by Quasimofo

FWD is trash.
Strap as many driver aids and diff tricks and special braking algorithms on it as you want, because you're gonna need 'em.

your stupidity truly knows no bounds. Please keep shouting from the rooftops how absolutely moronic and clueless you are. We will all be here with popcorn ready to laugh at you.