Official 2017 MY CHANGES (Full Document) and Backwards Compatibility Discussion

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Basically the traction control kick in later now.

& car is more stiff with less vibration

And that a Porsche Cayman is a rattling piece of shit that still drives better than the rest of these cars.

[Guff]

Oh nice, Electronic Brake Force Distribution is now disabled in full VSC Off mode.

[Bach415]

I'm going to assume some of these parts can be swapped over. Maybe a minor adjustment to tunes?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Bach415

I'm going to assume some of these parts can be swapped over. Maybe a minor adjustment to tunes?

Some yes, some no.

[Stang70Fastback]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Some yes, some no.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Like an example, you cannot swap the gauges out. While few components in drivetrain can swap em out without an issue.

[Guff]

I hope that Gas Pedal is real...

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Like an example, you cannot swap the gauges out. While few components in drivetrain can swap em out without an issue.

Just wondering... do you know whether or not there are new hardwired sensors to accommodate the new multi display in the cluster or is it just like from regular obd readings?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Bach415

Just wondering... do you know whether or not there are new hardwired sensors to accommodate the new multi display in the cluster or is it just like from regular obd readings?

Sorry, that one I do not know. I heard both... because, not all the sensors are from ECU. iirc there's 2nd sensor that they added in just for the gauge.

...but don't quote me on it. Cuz it was a damn while ago I learned all the detail info.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by Bach415

Just wondering... do you know whether or not there are new hardwired sensors to accommodate the new multi display in the cluster or is it just like from regular obd readings?

It's most likely a whole new harness and plug that won't be the same as the 13-16 models.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Guff

Woooooo!!! This document was a fun read. I love the ridiculous JDM ad-speak,

It is amusing, but you have to make some allowances for cultural differences and language translation. I bet a lot of American car marketing verbiage reads pretty weirdly in Japanese over there.

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Sorry, that one I do not know. I heard both... because, not all the sensors are from ECU. iirc there's 2nd sensor that they added in just for the gauge.

...but don't quote me on it. Cuz it was a damn while ago I learned all the detail info.

Deng. And I thought you knew everything! Time to just wait for the TRD parts to drop in price!

Originally Posted by Guff

It's most likely a whole new harness and plug that won't be the same as the 13-16 models.

Time to wait for a 17+ then swap the whole entire engine, ecu, diff, and gauge over

[Guff]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

It is amusing, but you have to make some allowances for cultural differences and language translation. I bet a lot of American car marketing verbiage reads pretty weirdly in Japanese over there.

haha don't I know it! I have to deal with @ichitaka05's Engrish on a daily basis!

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by krayzie

And that a Porsche Cayman is a rattling piece of shit that still drives better than the rest of these cars.

Engineers use accelerometers to graph responses to standardized bumps etc. so this isn't subjective (although Subaru could have cherry-picked a specific test that showed the Cayman in the worst possible light).

I was reading a group test of sports cars in a decade-old R&T the other day (don't ask) which graphed the comparative responses to such a bump and what was intriguing was how Porsche engineers had made the 911 and the Cayman respond nearly identically to the bump. Variances between the other models were very substantial - by a factor of 2 to 3.