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sitkent · 01-05-2013, 05:26 PM

Was talking to my local dealer about toyota Access the other day, he said that the agreed minimum value after 4 years and 80k is $14000 (GTS manual)

m0nty · 01-06-2013, 02:48 AM

You have to work depreciation prices of the rrp, not on road. Stamp duty, CTP dealer delivery and registration are new car costs only. These are immediately not applicable for resale values.

25% per annum is generally pretty good and is in line with ATO figures.

Captain Snooze · 01-10-2013, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Xauterus

If it doesnt sell then you never lose any money on it!

I don't quite follow your reasoning. You have the initial outlay plus running costs. Looks like a loss to me.

m0nty · 01-10-2013, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I don't quite follow your reasoning. You have the initial outlay plus running costs. Looks like a loss to me.

Agreed. Only way to not lose money on cars is to not buy them.

KamalT · 01-10-2013, 06:42 AM

If look at the price of r34 gtr. Avg. for a 2001 is approx 45k. Price is what the market is willing to shell out.

Also Year one will always have the little extra value.

JDMSushi · 01-10-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by m0nty

You have to work depreciation prices of the rrp, not on road. Stamp duty, CTP dealer delivery and registration are new car costs only. These are immediately not applicable for resale values.

25% per annum is generally pretty good and is in line with ATO figures.

For tax reasons yes.

From actual sale value I wouldn't agree. Works out to mean a new car is worth 40% of its original value after 3 years.

Xauterus · 01-10-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I don't quite follow your reasoning. You have the initial outlay plus running costs. Looks like a loss to me.

But you retain the initial asset. There is no loss until you sell it.

Captain Snooze · 01-10-2013, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xauterus

But you retain the initial asset. There is no loss until you sell it.

Sorry, I have to disagree. You incur a loss as soon as you buy it. You are reducing the loss when you sell it.

RAN94A · 01-10-2013, 09:27 PM

car generally loses several thousand $ the moment you take it out of the showroom lol.

Maj3sty · 01-10-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RAN94A

car generally loses several thousand $ the moment you take it out of the showroom lol.

Doesn't really apply for the 86 yet, if anything you could still sell it at RRP or a premium

BRAWL · 01-10-2013, 11:18 PM

Given its application/vehicle type, you could compare it to the RX-8 (ours would depreciate better though).

crouchy35 · 01-13-2013, 09:53 PM

Depends on the state of the property market, crude oil and of course... Al Qaeda.

Even with those variables, I'd expect 55-60k

Surok · 01-13-2013, 10:12 PM

yeah what with al qaeda being such an unknown speculators could value the 86 upto 100k with 50k on the clock..

Captain Snooze · 01-13-2013, 10:42 PM

What I'm going to do is buy one for 60k then sell it for 5k just to confuse the market.

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sitkent Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Toyota Altezza Location: Australia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was talking to my local dealer about toyota Access the other day, he said that the agreed minimum value after 4 years and 80k is $14000 (GTS manual)

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RAN94A Grand PooBah Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GT MT Location: Sydney Posts: 424 Thanks: 157 Thanked 225 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	car generally loses several thousand $ the moment you take it out of the showroom lol.

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crouchy35 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Mt Fuji Red 86 GTS (MT) Location: Adelaide Posts: 90 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Depends on the state of the property market, crude oil and of course... Al Qaeda. Even with those variables, I'd expect 55-60k

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Surok Wise old man Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 999 Thanked 240 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yeah what with al qaeda being such an unknown speculators could value the 86 upto 100k with 50k on the clock..

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