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Old 01-21-2021, 09:04 PM   #15
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Did you have 2 sandwich plates stacked on top of each other? Any pics?
Mocal on top of oil to water exchanger, don’t need the normal brz/86 extended spacer plate as the oil to water exchanger now acts as the spacer. So it sits maybe an inch taller overall vs other oil sandwich plates.
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I had the Cusco water/oil cooler (similar to the works unit/subaru stock oil warmer/cooler). It does keep oil temp below 118 deg C for agressive street driving but with 0w/20, the oil pressure would dip into the low 40s (psi) at redline. I pulled the Cusco unit off the car and last summer, I ran Castrol 5w30 c3 (euro spec).
On the same road, with the same conditions, the 5w30 kept the pressure in the mid 50s and never got hotter than 118 deg C. Thicker oil worked better than that style of cooler.
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Mocal on top of oil to water exchanger, don’t need the normal brz/86 extended spacer plate as the oil to water exchanger now acts as the spacer. So it sits maybe an inch taller overall vs other oil sandwich plates.
You're running the oil through two heat exchangers and the external lines. Any idea what kind of pressure drop your getting with all that going on?
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You're running the oil through two heat exchangers and the external lines. Any idea what kind of pressure drop your getting with all that going on?
Nope. Oil always looked and smelled good every change no signs of any shavings, speckling etc.. using only 0w-20, had dual catch cans on 13psi with almost zero blow by. No visual, audible, or performance loss signs of anything wearing abnormally. But no pressure gauge to tell.

Took her to redline probably 10times a day on my commute home. Beat the balls out of her every weekend. Just made sure to let oil hit 170 first. My final setup I couldn’t get oil over 220 if I wanted (probably on track i could) but doing 40-90-40-90 about 10 times in a row in pretty short intervals in 85F just cooking my brakes but Oil temp wasn’t phased.

It’s pretty common on other platforms that come with oem water to oil exchanger to add another air to oil cooler.

My normal commute is 10-12mins at 5am morning commute in WA weather, so getting temps up quickly was equally a concern to keeping them cool.
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That's a comfort. I have only the Subie OEM set up and have had nagging concerns about the delta P across it.
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Mocal on top of oil to water exchanger, don’t need the normal brz/86 extended spacer plate as the oil to water exchanger now acts as the spacer. So it sits maybe an inch taller overall vs other oil sandwich plates.
well shoot, now i have to try this.
wonder if it will work with my mishimoto sandwhich plate. lets hope!

Edit: had some time today so i added it on. It works. I used all the spacers and whatnot that came with the mishimoto sandwich plate. Had to use both center bolts from both kits to make it work. Its pretty tall now.
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I haven't felt the need to get an oil cooler, and I track my car fairly regularly. If I were to get one, it would be this type rather than an air/oil cooler. BRZ is my daily all year and I'd rather have a "cooler" that actually warms the oil initially and brings it up to temp more quickly, vs. one which would prevent the oil from ever getting up to temp in the winter.

Reports suggest it reduces max oil temps at the track from ~270-275F down to 260ish.
Fwiw, Have you had the opportunity to log your oil temps on the track ? My experience is that it can reach in the 280F range easily on a 20min hpde fairly fast circuit (and I’m not a fast driver) I agree that this cooling solution would not be enough for those conditions however I’d be concerned about having no oil cooling solution at all. (Personally I went with JR dual cooler rad)
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well shoot, now i have to try this.

wonder if it will work with my mishimoto sandwhich plate. lets hope!



Edit: had some time today so i added it on. It works. I used all the spacers and whatnot that came with the mishimoto sandwich plate. Had to use both center bolts from both kits to make it work. Its pretty tall now.
How close to the hood is it?

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I have an oil cooler and works oil regulator. During the winter, i put the regulator on since it actually does speed up the warming up time and keeps my oil temps to good operating temps. (180F+) When i had the oil cooler on my setup when its cold, my oil never everrrr goes over 180F when moving. warming up the car took forever i would sometimes sit there for like 15 minutes and barely the car would get up to 160F.

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If its cold where you live, regulator. If its hot where you live, oil cooler OR if you track it regardless if its cold or hot, oil cooler.

But to answer your question, i dont think its worth $350 or whatever it is. I agree with the people that says to get it yourself, if not just get the the Forester OEM one and get some hoses and clamps if you choose to get a regulator.
Doesn't the Works Oil Regulator Kit help with lowering peak temperatures in addition to speeding up the warm up time?

I'm very interested in this Kit for my Daily Driver. I do spirited driving more often than not but I never track my car. Though I live in a hot climate, I would be okay with the Regulator rather than a real Oil Cooler kit.

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Doesn't the Works Oil Regulator Kit help with lowering peak temperatures in addition to speeding up the warm up time?

I'm very interested in this Kit for my Daily Driver. I do spirited driving more often than not but I never track my car. Though I live in a hot climate, I would be okay with the Regulator rather than a real Oil Cooler kit.

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It has been proven to help a little. Just get the ned kit and call it a day. Simple install and give a bit of buffer.

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It has been proven to help a little. Just get the ned kit and call it a day. Simple install and give a bit of buffer.

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So wait, both the NED Kit and the Works Kit are the same correct? They both have the same functions?

What I'm getting with the NED Kit is that you may need additional pieces versus the Works Kit which is more plug and play?

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So wait, both the NED Kit and the Works Kit are the same correct? They both have the same functions?

What I'm getting with the NED Kit is that you may need additional pieces versus the Works Kit which is more plug and play?

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Well I see some of the issues that people experienced on their review page. But I get you. I'll invest in one of these versus an Oil Cooler.

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Where does the ned kit pick up and return coolant?

Edit: My google foo has turned to google poo. I've searched high and low and cannot find a link to the ned kit. What the heck is it?
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