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04-22-2013, 08:49 PM | #15 |
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The few fun cars I've had in my life were a '67 Mustang GT, '71 Corvette, '87 911, '99 Miata and an '02 Miata. I will say that my FR-S has given me more fun/pleasure than any of those cars. I will also say that if you have the Porsche bug the only way to get it out of your system is to buy one. When I sold mine I didn't turn my head any more when one drove by.
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996? Do a search on IMS bearing...
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-replaced.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...ft_Bearing.htm Apparently the accepted fix is a different bearing. $600 plus installation. The risk with the failure-prone stock bearing is total engine destruction! I was looking at 2002-2004 996s a few years ago, this was one issue that steered me in another direction... |
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1st gen Boxster are going to be future Lemon classics. (You can buy them for 2k!?!) Can't comment on the 996, i never see them on the road anymore nor driven one.
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No, this i disagree, 924 is a great car for almost the same reason the FRS is.
Cheap, RWD. Sure, they were slow and a bit ugly but oh boy could you have fun. Good starter project cars, if the car didn't rust from the inside of the engine...
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Found interesting info on the 996 and Boxster IMS bearing issues: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Porsc...946.S.95837230
Towards the end is the good info from the class action suit. Apparently '99/00 Boxsters and 911s had a double-row IMS bearing, and failure rates well below 1% (not that 1% failure rate is "good" for an engine-destroying problem). They went to single-row in 2001, failure rate was 4%-10%. That's a LOT of cars! Failures in 2001-2005 cars are covered in the class action settlement, up to 10 years from new or 130k miles, retroactively. I.e., if a 2001 car had a failure before 2011, the repairs have to be covered by Porsche, but prorated. If bought new and repairs happened at 130k miles, you still get 40% reimbursement, 25% if bought used. |
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This is no longer true. There are a lot of places, especially credit unions, that will finance older vehicles. Penfed will do it for vehicles with less than 100k miles. I know that for sure, because I asked them about it.
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I had a 1987 911 bought in 2008 - 3 wonderfull years. Drove it everywhere. Then sold it while i still had only good memories. Miss that car...
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One reason I didn't pony up for a used Porsche is that if I bought a Porsche it would be all I could afford (currently have two cars). And I drive too much (20k miles a year) to have a Porsche as my only car. Operating expenses are just too high.
dammit why do I drive so much?!?!
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It wasn't cheep. It cost twice as much as the Japanese sports cars of the day.
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Did some quick googling, assuming your talking about Datsun and Toyota, the prices are pretty damn close.
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Thank-you all for your comments. Opinions about the 996 are divided which is really interesting, but the points about maintenance and ongoing costs is SO helpful. I can afford all the repairs, but SHOULDN't i.e. have a million other more "responsible" bills to pay... Which brings me back to why I looked at an 86 in the first place... reliable fun, for a little more than the cost of a dreary sensible second car...
I am thinking I should wait until I have too much money and free time (ie semi-retirement) and think about porsches again then, until then.... 86/FRS/BRZ might be enough fun... |
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Another reason I didn't go for the Porsche was the awful seats. Maybe newer models are better, but I felt uncomfortable, had no leg clearance under the steering wheel, and couldn't adjust them lower. It was awful.
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