SCCA Class Reshuffle

[trippinbillies40]

Notes from the latest SEB minutes:

SS - Current SS minus Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06, Chevrolet Corvette C6, and Dodge Viper. Added Honda S2000 CR. Added some exlusion list cars like the BMW Z8, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (2009-13), Dodge Viper (NOC), Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca (2012-13), and Ford Mustang Cobra R.

AS - Current AS plus Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06, Chevrolet Corvette C6, and Dodge Viper from SS. Minus Chevrolet
Corvette C5 (non-Z06), BMW 1M Coupe, and BMW Z4 (Coupe & Roadster).

BS - Current BS plus Chevrolet Corvette C5 (non-Z06), BMW 1M Coupe, and BMW Z4 (Coupe & Roadster). Mazda Miata MS-R, Pontiac Solstice ZOK, and Porsche Boxster up from CS.

CS - Current CS minus Mazda Miata MS-R, Pontiac Solstice ZOK, and Porsche Boxster and slower cars moved to ES.

DS - Current DS minus RWD cars moved to FS.

ES - Current ES plus Mazda Miata (1999-2005), Toyota MR2 Spyder, Z3, BMW M Coup, and BMW M Roadster from CS.

FS - Current FS plus RWD cars from DS.

GS - All current GS/HS cars combined.

Also:

-Camber allowance removed
-ST rules to be revised to allow for existing exhaust rules
-1" +/- from stock wheel diameter still part of V3


So it's the twins vs. the RX8 in CS. Thoughts?

[Sccabrz192]

I think standard kappas miatas and Z's will still have a lot to say in the new CS as well. Interesting they totally abandoned the camber allowance... probably the TCS/ESC will be the next allowance to go by the way-side. pretty soon we might as well still call it "stock", without the R-comps

[Kido1986]

Glad to see the Z0k/MSR move but I was REALLY looking forward to camber plates But I understand the point

[whataboutbob]

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/May SEB Draft Minutes1.pdf

Copy and paste URL.

[edj]

they are slowly getting to a reasonable re-org.
a couple more iterations of Appendix A should get us there.

very happy to see the trunk kit cars get kicked out of CS. finally.

[DylanFRS]

I was mixed emotions about the added complexity of having adjustable camber so I am not horribly upset to see that go. Definitely excited to see the MSR and ZOK move up to BS.

[ViperASR]

Some of the B-Stock s2000 CR guys are a little miffed about the possibility of ending up in Super-Street, but I'll be curious to see how that shakes out. I think it would be a good thing for B-Street to allow the "regular" s2000 somewhere to play besides STR.

I'm very excited to see the MSR and ZOK move to B-Street. I think the twins will have a fighting chance next year nationally. I have a vested interest, considering it looks like I'm running a C-Street BRZ nationally next year.

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by ViperASR

Some of the B-Stock s2000 CR guys are a little miffed about the possibility of ending up in Super-Street

This still confuses me a bit, why does the CR get moved straight from BS to SS instead of to AS? Is the S2000 CR really faster than the C5 ZO6 or are they just worried it might be and don't want to upset the Vette guys more than they already have?

[xwd]

I think the last part is the reason, they want to give the C5 Z06 and C6 a place where they are almost guaranteed to be the top car since they are so popular. I think it would be a good battle between the CR and those Vettes in AS. There may be enough feedback the CR stays in AS, or maybe it gets reclassified during the 12-month window.

I don't think the CR really stands a chance against the GT3 and Elise.

[Dezoris]

The CR move to SS is absurd.

[CSG Mike]

Two class jump for the CR is just... well... they expect it to compete with a 997.2 GT3, the Lotuses, and RX-7 FD?

Riiiight.

[DylanFRS]

I agree. Those Corvette guys are ridiculous. Any time there is even a tiny change to anything they are the first ones on the message boards acting like the sky is falling and threatening to sell their Vettes and never race again if the change goes through.

I think the SCCA should just make a C5 ZO6 class where they can just have all of their old stock rules and tires and just compete together and not worry about anyone else.

[Robbie]

The CR should be buried. It's expensive, rare, and you can't do a package conversion to a normal S2K to make it a CR. I think it'll be more competitive than people think in SS with street tires.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by DylanFRS

I agree. Those Corvette guys are ridiculous. Any time there is even a tiny change to anything they are the first ones on the message boards acting like the sky is falling and threatening to sell their Vettes and never race again if the change goes through.

I think the SCCA should just make a C5 ZO6 class where they can just have all of their old stock rules and tires and just compete together and not worry about anyone else.

They did effectively kill off T1, where there's a somewhat large vette population in SoCal....