Toyota Debuts All New GR 86 - North America Release / Info!

[phm14]

Originally Posted by justinco

One of the videos out there talked about it, can't remember which. Automatic cars get eyesight, lane change assist, adaptive cruise, rear vehicle detection, etc. Manual cars do not.

I've had a few Lexus cars, and my '18 Tundra, with the collision avoidance systems. Not a fan. In my experience, it has created more danger than it has eliminated. That is partially due to individual driving conditions/habits, but I've have vehicles brake hard, when they shouldn't be braking. Their was TSB on the system in my truck, and they didn't like the 2.5" leveling lift on the front. I know in some cases these systems can be shut down, but am curious about possible liability issues that could happen if you were found at fault in a serious accident.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by phm14

I've had a few Lexus cars, and my '18 Tundra, with the collision avoidance systems. Not a fan. In my experience, it has created more danger than it has eliminated. That is partially due to individual driving conditions/habits, but I've have vehicles brake hard, when they shouldn't be braking. Their was TSB on the system in my truck, and they didn't like the 2.5" leveling lift on the front. I know in some cases these systems can be shut down, but am curious about possible liability issues that could happen if you were found at fault in a serious accident.

I have never experienced the Toyota system but my wife's last two cars have had the Subaru Eyesight safety systems in them. The collision avoidance in them is not intrusive at all. I experimented with the system by putting a bunch of boxes on the road and trying to hit them. The only way it activates at all is if you take absolutely zero action while headed for them. The slightest twitch of the steering or tap on the brake and they will not activate. You literally have to drive straight at something and it will not engage until it determines a collision is imminent and you are not acting. It has never come on during any driving by her or myself. All in all if you were totally oblivious to a situation and are so close to having a collision that it kicks in then there would be no time for you to react anyway.
Some of the features are really nice if you spend a lot of time on the highway. I would totally love to have the adaptive cruise and back up blind spot monitoring.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Manufacturers have lost interest in ice. Expensive to produce.

Actually, Toyota just got done with Super Taikyu Fuji 24 Hour Endurance race entering a ICE Hydrogen fuel Corolla. It’s not the Fuel Cell Electric engine like the Mirai, it actually is a ICE piston engine. It’s a modified Yaris GR 1600 3 cylinder turbo, and has a neat raspy exhaust note! And a manual transmission.

Akio Toyoda hopes to not replace all cars with electric motors, and keep some sporting variety of cars with soulful and engaging piston gas engines like this. This hydrogen converted engine does need a catalytic converter to remove Nox, but unlike gasoline or diesel, the only other emission is water vapor.

So yeah there is a God. Lol

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by juenedgi

Anyone else notice the gas door resembles the Toyota 2000GT headlight?

Good eye. But being a Subaru side engineer this time around, I think the inspiration is from Subaru 360’s headlight lol 😂
Or maybe them being a descendent of Nakajima Aircraft before FHI, it’s from an airplane part they had around? I must have a talk with them about this…

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Found this in one of the reviews on YouTube:


This can be useful for track days.
I suspect we will also be able to get the tire pressures via OBD if they are communicated to the digital gauge cluster.

Looks like they were testing on a NASCAR venue… lol
Look at the right side tire pressures

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by ermax

Current gen has pressure and temps via CANbus but I’ve never found a way to read them. Techstream can read them so I know it’s possible.

WHOA you got me really interested here

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Oil temp, yes, you can pull it up through OBD or through a 2017+ digital cluster. Pressure no unfortunately, the pressure sensor is a dumb low pressure switch. Hopefully that changes with the 2022 but I suspect it won’t.

Well the 2nd gen cluster clearly shows separate pressures for each tire so.....

Werent these a mandatory vehicle requirement a few years ago?]
So cars have to at least have the dummy light telling you your tire pressure is low.

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Oil temp, yes, you can pull it up through OBD or through a 2017+ digital cluster. Pressure no unfortunately, the pressure sensor is a dumb low pressure switch. Hopefully that changes with the 2022 but I suspect it won’t.

We were talking about tire pressure and temp, not oil.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Moto-P

Good eye. But being a Subaru side engineer this time around, I think the inspiration is from Subaru 360’s headlight lol 😂
Or maybe them being a descendent of Nakajima Aircraft before FHI, it’s from an airplane part they had around? I must have a talk with them about this…

Probably more like that's as close as they could get to a circle with the panel contour. The biggest inspiration there is simple geometry.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Well the 2nd gen cluster clearly shows separate pressures for each tire so.....

Werent these a mandatory vehicle requirement a few years ago?]
So cars have to at least have the dummy light telling you your tire pressure is low.

Mandatory in US. Never have been in Canada.

[PandaEighty-Six]

Originally Posted by Nails

I have nothing against the safety features. From an aesthetic standpoint, I just wish they could come up with a better way to integrate parking sensors without adding "rivets" to the bumper.

True. Maybe this is something to look forward to midway of the 2nd gen's production cycle.

[Brz-123]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Mandatory in US. Never have been in Canada.

And mandatory in UK and EU. Been here since 2014. Data is available on OBD2 and can be read through Carista App. Looks like this

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[R_E_L]

Originally Posted by Moto-P

Actually, Toyota just got done with Super Taikyu Fuji 24 Hour Endurance race entering a ICE Hydrogen fuel Corolla. It’s not the Fuel Cell Electric engine like the Mirai, it actually is a ICE piston engine. It’s a modified Yaris GR 1600 3 cylinder turbo, and has a neat raspy exhaust note! And a manual transmission.

Akio Toyoda hopes to not replace all cars with electric motors, and keep some sporting variety of cars with soulful and engaging piston gas engines like this. This hydrogen converted engine does need a catalytic converter to remove Nox, but unlike gasoline or diesel, the only other emission is water vapor.

So yeah there is a God. Lol

Really happy to hear Toyota is trying to keep ICE around for performance vehicles. While I appreciate the benefits of an electric drivetrain, the emotional component of driving is heavily influenced by an engine/exhaust note.

[Guff]

Looks like media drive event will be in early August in upstate NY. I will be there! I'll make a new thread closer to the day where you guys can tell me exactly what you wanna know.

My biggest interest will be in deep diving into what they actually updated in the chassis. Hard points, subframes, control arms, etc etc