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Being French fries?
But we love French fries in America
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I couldn't agree more
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Tesla Follows Ford To Produce LFP Batteries in the US Using CATL-Licensed LFP Chemistry https://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ry-212727.html
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I find it hilarious seeing people on this forum running decatted loud cars with low AFR tunes, big turbos, making unnecessary power numbers preaching how all of this political BS is necessary.
I'd be more open to some takes here if the hypocrisy wasn't so high. The Toyota Prius exists for almost 26 years yet some people here willingly bought a sports car (which is not a necessity) and them modded the shit out of it. Good technology does not need legislation to force people to adopt it. That's a fact. Forcing everyone to change to EVs against their will is no different then switching all straws to disgusting paper straws that ruin how your coke tastes and feels while doing jack for the environment in a measurable way. |
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Would you pay taxes if you didn't have to? Would you drive slow if there were no speed limits everywhere? Do you think industries wouldn't pollute more and resort to dangerous manufacturing processes in an effort to help out their shareholders more if regulations didn't exist? People clearly don't need trucks and SUVs, but that is what everyone is buying. Maybe people don't always align their interests what is best for their family, health, society, etc. A treadmill is a good piece of technology, but apparently a couch, ice cream and a TV is better technology for most Americans. Get the point? If not, I'll elaborate. EVs will be cheaper, faster, easier to maintain, last longer, be more reliable, be more enjoyable to operate (for the majority of people) than ICEs, but a change to EVs won't happen fast without investment and encouragement. We are still in the innovators stage at 2.2% of cars being EVs, despite the Model 3 and Y being the most popular cars; they and EVs are still a fraction of total cars sold. Like you may remember from chemistry, the movement of products to reactants is moving from a state of stability to stability (happiness, you could say like from ICEs now to EVs in the future with EVs being cheaper, better, etc, like how reactants like to be at a lower energy state), but it is the transition that is unpleasant and energy intensive. It takes a lot of energy to go from reactants to products, but that transition can be sped up with an enzyme that catalyzes the reaction. In this case, the government is that enzyme that is speeding things to a better (inevitable) future. It would happen eventually on its own, but estimates suggest that waiting would be more expensive. Private investment can be much slower than private investment with the addition of more government investment. Surprise, surprise! For instance, the government has invested a lot in solar in terms of creating more demand through tax incentives (which leads to more private investment), through R&D grants and through creating more demand through direct purchases in energy projects. I posed this in the Expert Prognosis For The Planet thread, but solar is down to $13.32/MWh, which is a fraction of nuclear and fossil fuels, and it use to be over $1000/MWh, so the investment seems to have paid off.
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A lot of sects and cults were founded in California, lol.
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Far more outside of it
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Sadly, Maryland is pushing to do the same..
Wish people understood this is not about the environment, but whatever I guess.. https://governor.maryland.gov/news/p...te-Change.aspx
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On a related note, and not sure if this is a good sign, a bad sign or just a sign it has become normalized but Woot has Lectron EV chargers and converters on sale today in "Tools and Gardens".
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https://canadiancor.com/wrights-law-...ct-the-future/ The prices of batteries will continue to drop as the industry gets more and more mature. The price drop has been $53,400 for a 50kWh pack in eleven years. We should see the cost of the rest of the car drop too as sales increase, but specific components like the motors should drop, wiring should drop, especially when the switch to 48v systems, etc. Over time, the material choices and improvements in technology should either enhance the car or make the cars cheaper and cheaper like we have seen so far or like we have seen with solar. Even though solar is mature, prices keep dropping and innovation is still going strong; solar just saw an efficiency breakthrough that will increase their energy generation by 50-100%, so as cheap as they have become, they will be getting even cheaper. A price drop of the batteries to $100/kWh is the predicted price that puts the vehicles at price parity with ICEs. Currently, the market shows 3% of new car sales were EVs, so following Wright's Law, if that doubles to 6% then a 15-20% price drop, and doubles to to 12% then another 15-50% drop, doubles to 24%, doubles to 50%, doubles to 100% then the cost of a battery should drop from $127 per kWh to $41.6-$56.4 per kWh. This would drop the price of producing the 50 kw\Wh battery by $4k-4.5k. As an industry, all cars should be getting cheaper if they all move to 48v, all move to gigacastings, all move to more automation, etc, which is where things seem to be heading. But EVs should see the most gains in price drop over legacy vehicles. There is still a lot of development to be made with cheaper materials for batteries, smaller motors that are more powerful like the radial flux motors, drop in electricity for charging, availability of superchargers, etc., besides the drop due to scales of volume. In aggregate, the cost to own an ICE versus EV will be growing wider and wider with the EV the clear winner.
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The model know as a Free Market would drive the change, but the change is not being driven by people's choice, it's being driven by government mandates. Hate to break it to everyone, its not about cleaner air, lower instances of "respiratory and cardiovascular illness and associated lost work days" or better lower cost living for anyone.. I hope you are not going to tell me next that people had the choice of being vaccinated too? Sure, if you didn't mind loosing your livelihood, freedom to travel or be provided healthcare, and being labeled as the reason Covid continued to spread...
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