follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] For all off-topic discussion topics.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-05-2014, 02:24 PM   #29
suaveflooder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,295
Thanks: 2,708
Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Tut View Post
But doing Formula D in my FR-S when I am 70 years old won't exactly work out for me.
Lol, make good decisions in your 20's and there is no reason why you can't be driving a $100k car in your mid to late 30's. There is no need to wait until retirement. Just do things in the correct order

What happens is that people live in their means or above it. They have their work 401ks, a car loan, mortgage and CC debt….by the time they get to retirement, they are using their 401ks to continue to pay off their debts! It really is about balance. I started late, but I will still have my $100k car probably by the time I'm 40
suaveflooder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 02:29 PM   #30
Model Citizen
Lacking brains
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: frz
Location: Ma
Posts: 730
Thanks: 180
Thanked 825 Times in 328 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
the amount of depreciation a 100k car would have is enough of a reason to scare me off from one

let alone the costs which accompany one, maintenance, parts, tax, excise, reg, insurance, etc.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjsporl1996 View Post
If this thread is not deleted I can file a lawsuit.
Model Citizen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 02:30 PM   #31
King Tut
NASA SpecE30 Racer
 
King Tut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2006 Honda S2000
Location: Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 7,279
Thanks: 607
Thanked 5,759 Times in 3,055 Posts
Mentioned: 274 Post(s)
Tagged: 10 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to King Tut
Quote:
Originally Posted by suaveflooder View Post
I started late, but I will still have my $100k car probably by the time I'm 40
I would have my $100k car if I could stop flipping cars every 1 to 2 years and losing money.
__________________
King Tut is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to King Tut For This Useful Post:
suaveflooder (06-05-2014)
Old 06-05-2014, 02:33 PM   #32
suaveflooder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,295
Thanks: 2,708
Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Tut View Post
I would have my $100k car if I could stop flipping cars every 1 to 2 years and losing money.
HAHA! I know how you feel. I've been doing the same. Decided I should probably stop if I want my DBS
suaveflooder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 02:34 PM   #33
suaveflooder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,295
Thanks: 2,708
Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
the amount of depreciation a 100k car would have is enough of a reason to scare me off from one

let alone the costs which accompany one, maintenance, parts, tax, excise, reg, insurance, etc.
But if I can afford a $100k car, I am probably not worried about those things

Edit: and I'm also buying used. Depreciation will still be there, but the majority of the drop should be done. Cars lose something like 60% of their value in the first 4-5 years if memory servers me correctly. I've said it before, the FRS is my first and last new car.
suaveflooder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:02 PM   #34
Model Citizen
Lacking brains
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: frz
Location: Ma
Posts: 730
Thanks: 180
Thanked 825 Times in 328 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by suaveflooder View Post
But if I can afford a $100k car, I am probably not worried about those things
First rule of being a good jew.

Money pissed away always hurts, no matter how much of it you have.

Same idea as having a house where the property tax is equal to a 20k car every year.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjsporl1996 View Post
If this thread is not deleted I can file a lawsuit.
Model Citizen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:02 PM   #35
serialk11r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,279
Thanks: 285
Thanked 1,074 Times in 759 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
The main problem I see with a slightly loosened version of the premise of this (x percentage of your income on a car) is that living expenses don't scale up with your income. If you make 200k after tax and spend half on a car, you have a lot more money left to save than someone who makes 100k after tax and spends half on a car, or 50k, etc.

Say you're a hedge fund manager and you pull in 300 million in a year after tax. You decide you've always wanted a yacht, so you plunk down 100 million on it, and keep 50 million in reserve to pay for its upkeep and staffing. You still have 150 million left over, but oh no you've spent too much of your money on your toy, imagine how much more money you'd have if you saved it!

On a smaller scale, this is like buying a Porsche using 100k out of your savings/investments that amounts to a couple million (before interest/gains etc.) in your lifetime (if we're going by the 1/2 of income thing, this is a reasonable amount of money for someone who pulls 200k after tax a year to have saved up). As long as you're not buying these things every single year and losing money trading them in, that's not too bad of an expense.
serialk11r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:02 PM   #36
kiichiro
corolla specs/GTR looks
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: ooh oooh pretty tail lights
Location: slower than a accord V6
Posts: 490
Thanks: 229
Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Some of us have other more expensive cars and still wanted a 86. Passion and fiscal sense are polar opposites at least for me
M cars Porsches and the like make little prudent buying options but if you go to work or run a business however you bring home the cheese or bacon, you can live life to enjoy it
No one needs these things, about as much as I need a motorcycle that does 0-60 under 2.8 seconds. That costs almost as much as a frs. But what's the point of a frugal life?

Otherwise you can go live that 1/10 nonsense and drive a nice corolla

Grow up fun, grow old not so much
Life short be a rock star when u can

FI that 86 is what I suggest to all owners

For sure go long go fast and go hard
While I may or may not agree with the site owners I have mad respect for them for making this community possible and we can all benefit it

Inter web kudos
__________________
SOLD THEM BOTH
Hers: 2007 987S
Mine: 2012 991S
That was fun, thanks Hachi
kiichiro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:03 PM   #37
suaveflooder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,295
Thanks: 2,708
Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
First rule of being a good jew.

Money pissed away always hurts, no matter how much of it you have.

Same idea as having a house where the property tax is equal to a 20k car every year.
I'm mexican
suaveflooder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:14 PM   #38
kiichiro
corolla specs/GTR looks
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: ooh oooh pretty tail lights
Location: slower than a accord V6
Posts: 490
Thanks: 229
Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm Indian
Tech sport not casino
__________________
SOLD THEM BOTH
Hers: 2007 987S
Mine: 2012 991S
That was fun, thanks Hachi
kiichiro is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kiichiro For This Useful Post:
suaveflooder (06-05-2014)
Old 06-05-2014, 03:24 PM   #39
ayau
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Some rust bucket
Location: Polar ice cap
Posts: 3,058
Thanks: 312
Thanked 1,045 Times in 556 Posts
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses View Post
That's a part of it as well. If I'm going for a test drive of a luxury/premium marque, I try to dress in my work clothes so I blend in with their typical consumer; whereas I would normally look like a post-college thug.



For Corvettes, M3/5, 911....I'm asking my dad to come along because he's their target market.
Isn't the typical WRX owner in their 20s wearing a wide brimmed hat?
ayau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:27 PM   #40
ayau
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Some rust bucket
Location: Polar ice cap
Posts: 3,058
Thanks: 312
Thanked 1,045 Times in 556 Posts
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Model Citizen View Post
First rule of being a good jew.

Money pissed away always hurts, no matter how much of it you have.

Same idea as having a house where the property tax is equal to a 20k car every year.
I must be a very good Jew then, lol.
ayau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 03:31 PM   #41
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,814
Thanks: 38,822
Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Tut View Post
Yeah because you would have to make $300k to most likely have $30k to drop the cash to buy a car and not finance it.....
Only if you can't say "no" to yourself and plan ahead. If you take a car payment and pay it to yourself, you can buy a car, for cash, in the same time it takes to buy a car with payments. You just want get to drive it yet.

I also rarely buy new (the FR-S is an exception, but I still paid cash, and I make well south of $300K).

The hard part is breaking the cycle, or not getting into it in the first place.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dadhawk For This Useful Post:
suaveflooder (06-05-2014)
Old 06-05-2014, 03:31 PM   #42
OrbitalEllipses
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: Attitude
Location: MD
Posts: 10,046
Thanks: 884
Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayau View Post
Isn't the typical WRX owner in their 20s wearing a wide brimmed hat?
Average NEW WRX owner is low 30s, white collar. As far as the used kiddies...you'd be right.
OrbitalEllipses is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.