11-23-2020, 08:01 PM | #113 |
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i found this one online just now. it looks like a 10 yo did it, but you get the idea.
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I think the 86 will be the better looking version at this stage. Poor old BRZ, got hit with the ugly stick right in the nose. |
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I hear what you're saying about how incongruent the designs are. This is a big problem in the automotive industry generally and the Japanese industry, specifically (save for Mazda). I mean, what you're describing is basically the Zupra - though I am holding out hope that the Toyota version will look better in person (as seems to be the case based on spy shots and subsequent renderings). As far as I can tell, getting any car with sensible design these days costs either a lot of money or is exclusive to other markets (Honda E, S660, etc.) or both. Also worth keeping in mind, Subaru always had busy design language since at least the early 90s. Hopefully the Toyota version looks better.
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That does indeed look much better.
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11-24-2020, 11:43 AM | #117 |
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Who cares what a Camry looks like(unless it's just absolutely hideous)? You buy a Camry because it will drive to the moon and back,four times over,and still last another 10+ years.
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Agreed.I'm not a big fan of sedans(or saloons for our friends across the pond),but there are a few that I would definitely consider buying if I were in the market for a new car,and the Camry is definitely on that very short list.
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Camry was an 84 and the 86 was an 80. Some odd statements made in the surveys! 86 The Pros Amount of trunk/hatch space Really? Rear visibility Ya for a coupe Quietness of the vehicle interior Who the hell did they survey? Problem Areas The vehicle's heating and air conditioning OK? Maybe? Feel of the seat material Oh for crying out loud Transmission smoothness Ummmm not a Camry Camry Owners Like
The problems experienced by owners of the 2017 Toyota Camry during the first 90 days of ownership.
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perhaps the sort of folks who bother to respond to such surveys are a little special
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Theres a bunch of criteria that messes up the ratings. For example, reliability can take a hit because say the infotainment system sucks and not because the infotainment system is constantly broken. It sucking and it being broken are 2 different things. |
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A: My car is an unreliable POS! B: Why, what happened? Oil leaking, engine failure, electrical fault? A: Nah, the trunk is too small and I don't like the seat fabric - crap reliability! B: Right... [reliability] You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means! |
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i also put something to the effect of 'yes' to heat/air. as long as it works, it's better than i had!
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And how the hell does seat material "feel" wrong anyway? Do they mean the material? Position? Adjustment? Am I missing out on some really spectacular feeling seats someplace?
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