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Old 09-20-2020, 05:26 PM   #71
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Any reason why you recommend the above S/C in alphabetical order? Definitely different setups just curious why?
Probably to keep from being called out for trying to push a sale based on preference. They're all great for different reasons
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Any reason why you recommend the above S/C in alphabetical order? Definitely different setups just curious why?
I don't want folks to infer that the list is in order or preference or anything else.
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Probably to keep from being called out for trying to push a sale based on preference. They're all great for different reasons
Well, I don't actually sell things, but always gotta CYA nowadays.
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I don't want folks to infer that the list is in order or preference or anything else.
Fair enough, which of the mentioned setups (if you had to run on your daily) would you prefer for a daily/weekend fun car? Just to cruise around mostly, maybe a a track day or two a year.
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Fair enough, which of the mentioned setups (if you had to run on your daily) would you prefer for a daily/weekend fun car? Just to cruise around mostly, maybe a a track day or two a year.
Well, I chose a turbo for my own car

Before the turbo I was Ace header + flex.
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Supra or BRZ seems like an easy answer for anyone who doesn’t mind the auto and wants more power than the classic 350hp cutoff, where built engines and tranny swaps dramatically increase the slope of the budget line.

I’m curious if the Supra still feels light and capable, or if it is just a more premium Mustang or Camaro? Seems like someone could Procharge or turbo a Mustang or get a GT350 for Supra money. Obviously you got the Supra, but was it the best quest for big power in hindsight? Weight is big on my list (manual is more), so how much heavier does the Supra feel than a 86, and is it the best handling muscle car, or rather, is it a muscle car with good handling, or is it a good handling sports car with muscle? Get where I’m going?
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Supra or BRZ seems like an easy answer for anyone who doesnít mind the auto and wants more power than the classic 350hp cutoff, where built engines and tranny swaps dramatically increase the slope of the budget line.

Iím curious if the Supra still feels light and capable, or if it is just a more premium Mustang or Camaro? Seems like someone could Procharge or turbo a Mustang or get a GT350 for Supra money. Obviously you got the Supra, but was it the best quest for big power in hindsight? Weight is big on my list (manual is more), so how much heavier does the Supra feel than a 86, and is it the best handling muscle car, or rather, is it a muscle car with good handling, or is it a good handling sports car with muscle? Get where Iím going?
Ask yourself, what's the lighest car you can get in the Supra's range, and there's only one answer: Supra.
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Ask yourself, what's the lighest car you can get in the Supra's range, and there's only one answer: Supra.

Porsche Cayman. The C7 vette (z51) also only weighs ~50 lbs more than the 3.0. Just saying..
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Porsche Cayman. The C7 vette (z51) also only weighs ~50 lbs more than the 3.0. Just saying..
Neither are new cars within the Supra's price/performance range.

If we're going used, there's tons of higher "value" cars.
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Ask yourself, what's the lighest car you can get in the Supra's range, and there's only one answer: Supra.
"Range" can mean so many things.

I wasn't really asking if the car was light for its power. I can look at the specs. I guess I am curious as to whether the car is a track/driver's/handling car first that has more power and luxuries than an 86, or is the Supra just a lighter and more premium Mustang/Camaro alternative?

If it is the latter, and it is best used as a high horsepower highway queen like the MKIV, then I'm sure some buyers might opt for a cheaper muscle car. Add a turbo or SC to a base American muscle car, and they will go. Add enough power and supporting mods to a Camaro, and someone has ZL1 1LE type of performance on the track, which may be more brutal power than finesse, but this may also be the case for the Supra. Take the listed Nurburgring times: the A90 Supra says 7:52 and a HCTR says 7:43. Obviously the Supra has more potential, but was it at the expense of finesse--not just weight?

Is the Supra just a highway queen or is it a capable track car? Nurburgring times says the Supra is just a re-skinned BMW M2 Competition. Is it a re-skinned sports sedan, a muscle car or is it a sports car?
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Ask me anything about either of these cars, and their ownership experience!
Whats your holy trinity of mods? you get three mods to a stock frs just driven off the lot. for a daily driver that occasionally tracks (what i feel like most of us here are).
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Whats your holy trinity of mods? you get three mods to a stock frs just driven off the lot. for a daily driver that occasionally tracks (what i feel like most of us here are).
oil cooler. lsd. pads.
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oil cooler. lsd. pads.
LSD upgrade over tires? Which LSD upgrade would you recommend and what does it do for you over the stock LSD?
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"Range" can mean so many things.

I wasn't really asking if the car was light for its power. I can look at the specs. I guess I am curious as to whether the car is a track/driver's/handling car first that has more power and luxuries than an 86, or is the Supra just a lighter and more premium Mustang/Camaro alternative?

If it is the latter, and it is best used as a high horsepower highway queen like the MKIV, then I'm sure some buyers might opt for a cheaper muscle car. Add a turbo or SC to a base American muscle car, and they will go. Add enough power and supporting mods to a Camaro, and someone has ZL1 1LE type of performance on the track, which may be more brutal power than finesse, but this may also be the case for the Supra. Take the listed Nurburgring times: the A90 Supra says 7:52 and a HCTR says 7:43. Obviously the Supra has more potential, but was it at the expense of finesse--not just weight?

Is the Supra just a highway queen or is it a capable track car? Nurburgring times says the Supra is just a re-skinned BMW M2 Competition. Is it a re-skinned sports sedan, a muscle car or is it a sports car?
It becomes difficult to cool cars once you cross a power threshold; try tracking that domestic with more power.

The transmissions will always be a hard limit.
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