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Old 09-08-2020, 03:55 PM   #169
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What changed on the 2020 model year to fix overheating?
Larger grills.. supposedly 13% larger which helps it run 18 degrees cooler on the track
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Old 09-08-2020, 03:57 PM   #170
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Of course it can.

I thought the TOB issue was resolved with update part that supersedes previous design?
U can, but odds r u can blow up the fa20 quite easily

TOB issue was resolved in the later model, but mine died on me right at 50k... My previous cars had 150k on the original TOBs when I sold them..
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:12 PM   #171
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Have a source you can post? Interested in learning about this.

The Subaru website lists all of the bumper parts as being the same for MY2017-
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:18 PM   #172
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There will be no turbo. They have officially said that time and again. Only the internet thinks there will be.
Did S/T say that? I don't remember that part being official.
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:26 PM   #173
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U can, but odds r u can blow up the fa20 quite easily
I would like to see those odds quantified! I did some research on this when I bought my car before I started tracking it, thinking I'd end up getting one as that seemed to be the conventional wisdom, but IMO the "need" to run an oil cooler on these cars is way overstated. 270F to 275F isn't a problem for decent synthetic oil, and that's as hot as my engine oil ever gets at the track even with ambient temps above 90F Running at least 5w30 is a good idea at those temps though.

Others have done oil analysis pre- and post-track usage without an oil cooler hand haven't found degraded oil or elevated amounts of wear metals. i might start doing that...

I don't think an oil cooler is a requirement for a "casually" tracked FT86 (say, once in a while HPDE usage with 15-20 minute stints).
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Old 09-08-2020, 05:18 PM   #174
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Have a source you can post? Interested in learning about this.

The Subaru website lists all of the bumper parts as being the same for MY2017-
I was talking about the CTR lol
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I was talking about the CTR lol
Oops, sorry. Reading comprehension failure. All 3 lines of your post in a thread about the 86 mentioned the 86. For some reason I was thinking 86...
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:33 PM   #176
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I was talking about the CTR lol

The CTR is bada** but it can have issues on the track also. Some people on here have mentioned front tires overheating (not a mechanical ďflawĒ per say but itís an issue), engine overheating issues, and some gearbox problems. Also the oil dilution issue but I havenít been keeping up with that. I love the CTR donít get me wrong, itís a perfect daily driver, occasional track weapon.


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Meh, CTRs are slow... Wrong-wheel drive!
https://www.comscc.org/events/result...?id=2020-08-09
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Meh, CTRs are slow... Wrong-wheel drive!
https://www.comscc.org/events/result...?id=2020-08-09

Iím guessing you were saying that sarcastically?! The CTR on that list isnít going up against any slouches in that grouping thatís for sure. And Iím not sure how Mustangs and Camaros get bunched in there.


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The CTR on that list isn’t going up against any slouches in that grouping that’s for sure. And I’m not sure how Mustangs and Camaros get bunched in there.
Cars get points based on mods and tires, so the musclecars in his class are either similar power/weight or they are on lesser tires.

But anyway, check CTR times vs. stock power-level BRZs in T60

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Cars get points based on mods and tires, so the musclecars in his class are either similar power/weight or they are on lesser tires.

But anyway, check CTR times vs. stock power-level BRZs in T60


And I know a bigger heavier muscle might have some disadvantage on a tight course. Although they have become much better handlers.

Do 86ís and BRZís beat CTRís?! In that class?Thatís awesome if so! I honestly donít know much about the different SCCA classes so that is good to know. And I wonít be trading in my FR-S for a CTR any time soon (or ever). But I respect what Honda achieved.


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Just swapping one set of issues for another.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...da-fixing-one/
Guess my car is the lucky one with 0 issues.
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Larger grills.. supposedly 13% larger which helps it run 18 degrees cooler on the track
If you're going to be tracking a CTR, you most definitely do not want to remain stock cooling for very long. However, if you are only going to be tracking once or twice a year, the stock car will be rock solid, unless of course you treat it like a track prepped machine on those days.

People tend to forget the CTR is a street car first and track car second, but I guess you can kind of blame Honda marketing (or literally all marketing) for that one.
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