Production Timeline - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Clide · 10-20-2021, 04:03 PM

Hey all, just got off the phone with my local Toyota dealer. They said no 86s have been produced, and won't be produced until the launch of the new Tundra and the Cross. Then it will be the 86, followed by the Crown. The rep estimates a February-March delivery time frame. Has anyone else heard the same range from other reps/sources?

groovymoonbear · 10-20-2021, 04:39 PM

Odd that they would say it would be dependent upon the manufacturing of other Toyota vehicles considering it’s manufactured by Subaru.

Yoshoobaroo · 10-20-2021, 05:05 PM

Yea that’s weird. Unless they’re literally waiting on microcontrollers that are shared between those cars I find that hard to believe. They would have to be Toyota sourced parts AND Subaru would have to have its own source for the same part considering they ARE building BRZs.

toomoody · 10-20-2021, 05:31 PM

This sounds like typical dealer BS. They don't know anything but they pretend to. I've talked to a ton of dealers, and none of them really know anything about timelines. It's not in their system to order yet, and they know as much as the public. I highly doubt that production is waiting for other Toyota vehicles. The Tundra is made in Texas, the Corolla Cross in Alabama (at least for the US market). The 86 is made in Japan by Subaru on at the same plant as the BRZ.

Kona61 · 10-21-2021, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Clide

Hey all, just got off the phone with my local Toyota dealer. They said no 86s have been produced, and won't be produced until the launch of the new Tundra and the Cross. Then it will be the 86, followed by the Crown. The rep estimates a February-March delivery time frame. Has anyone else heard the same range from other reps/sources?

He’s lying. The Tundra is made in Texas and the Corolla Cross is in Alabama. That’s not even considering the fact the GR86 is made entirely of Subaru designed chips. So the shortage wouldn’t affect the car directly like that.

Lastly as others said, it’s built in a Japanese Subaru factory.

Blighty · 10-21-2021, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Clide

Hey all, just got off the phone with my local Toyota dealer. They said no 86s have been produced, and won't be produced until the launch of the new Tundra and the Cross. Then it will be the 86, followed by the Crown. The rep estimates a February-March delivery time frame. Has anyone else heard the same range from other reps/sources?

Its a potential delay to mid year release in Australia according to rumours - but I'd still expect the US to come earlier.

There is an 'announcement' they said they will make around in q4, bot sure what the announcement is for, probably the release date.

McMCOO · 10-21-2021, 12:12 PM

My cars.com query shows four 2022 Subaru BRZ Limiteds allegedly available in the USA. I sent an inquiry to the dealership in Utah and got this response.

Clide · 10-21-2021, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by toomoody

This sounds like typical dealer BS. They don't know anything but they pretend to. I've talked to a ton of dealers, and none of them really know anything about timelines. It's not in their system to order yet, and they know as much as the public. I highly doubt that production is waiting for other Toyota vehicles. The Tundra is made in Texas, the Corolla Cross in Alabama (at least for the US market). The 86 is made in Japan by Subaru on at the same plant as the BRZ.

Yea I had already taken things with a grain of salt, since I'm not really aware of how production works for these cars. It does feel like there would be more word from Toyota if they were being made at the same time as the BRZs, so I wouldn't totally discount there being no/extremely few GR86s produced.

HKz · 10-22-2021, 01:59 PM

...and why would he bring up the Crown...? we ain't in china or japan

BuddahLV · 10-22-2021, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz

...and why would he bring up the Crown...? we ain't in china or japan

the Crown is replacing the Avalon

but, the dealer the OP spoke to is incorrect. GR86 production is not impacted by the other lines.

trippinbillies40 · 10-22-2021, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by McMCOO

My cars.com query shows four 2022 Subaru BRZ Limiteds allegedly available in the USA. I sent an inquiry to the dealership in Utah and got this response.

Are you actually trying to find one or are you waiting for a Toyota? If you want a Subaru, PM me and I'll see if I can help you hunt one down closer than Utah.

McMCOO · 10-22-2021, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Are you actually trying to find one or are you waiting for a Toyota? If you want a Subaru, PM me and I'll see if I can help you hunt one down closer than Utah.

I'm up in the air on brand. But I think I would prefer the Toyota.
More Intel gathering than anything. Thanks!

Oh and Utah... Why not? Big chunk of break-in!

trippinbillies40 · 10-22-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by McMCOO

I'm up in the air on brand. But I think I would prefer the Toyota.
More Intel gathering than anything. Thanks!

Oh and Utah... Why not? Big chunk of break-in!

Well if you want one sooner, I can try to help ya out. And I hear ya on the break in miles. I'm taking mine all the way down to SFO for an autocross the weekend after I get it haha.

Clide · 10-23-2021, 12:39 AM

Feels like the trick, and the main reason I'm going for Toyota, is Subaru dealers are slapping on fat charges to go past MSRP as much as possible

10-20-2021, 04:03 PM	#1
Clide Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2022 MT BRZ - Black Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 20 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Production Timeline Hey all, just got off the phone with my local Toyota dealer. They said no 86s have been produced, and won't be produced until the launch of the new Tundra and the Cross. Then it will be the 86, followed by the Crown. The rep estimates a February-March delivery time frame. Has anyone else heard the same range from other reps/sources?

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groovymoonbear Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Drives: ‘22 CWP BRZ LTD 6MT Location: CO Posts: 81 Thanks: 61 Thanked 64 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Odd that they would say it would be dependent upon the manufacturing of other Toyota vehicles considering it’s manufactured by Subaru.

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toomoody Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Drives: 2007 Toyota Prius (for now) Location: New York Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This sounds like typical dealer BS. They don't know anything but they pretend to. I've talked to a ton of dealers, and none of them really know anything about timelines. It's not in their system to order yet, and they know as much as the public. I highly doubt that production is waiting for other Toyota vehicles. The Tundra is made in Texas, the Corolla Cross in Alabama (at least for the US market). The 86 is made in Japan by Subaru on at the same plant as the BRZ.

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McMCOO Anti-Social Media Join Date: Apr 2021 Drives: 24 GR86 Premium MT is on the way! Location: SW Washington State Posts: 219 Thanks: 121 Thanked 280 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My cars.com query shows four 2022 Subaru BRZ Limiteds allegedly available in the USA. I sent an inquiry to the dealership in Utah and got this response.

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HKz Reformed Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '23 GRC, '11 Prius, '04 RAV4 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,314 Thanks: 1,236 Thanked 1,133 Times in 588 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	...and why would he bring up the Crown...? we ain't in china or japan

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Clide Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2022 MT BRZ - Black Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 20 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Feels like the trick, and the main reason I'm going for Toyota, is Subaru dealers are slapping on fat charges to go past MSRP as much as possible

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