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01-12-2023, 11:04 AM | #15 |
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I was referring to the GR86. They only got a handful of them for 2022. The Yaris is a different story entirely.
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Exactly, all news articles unless there is an official statement from whatever drove the article should always be taken with a grain of salt. Until we see an official statement from either Toyota or Subaru announcing the departure of the GR/BRZ, everything else is pure speculation. Like someone else said, salespersons are not always car enthusiasts or really interested on development news. So saying "Oh, better get this car because is the last one!" is possibly a sales tactic. I read the first post which I found odd and decided to look into it and those articles quoted came out. I would stand with my initial statement about the salesperson misinterpreting an article with possibly trying to seal a sale.
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I doubt that the salesman said it to make a sale. More likely just a carry over of that misunderstanding. Over the years I have had salesmen tell me: "The BRZ is AWD turbo and the FRS is not" - Subaru "The BRZ is AWD and much slower than the FRS" - Toyota "There will be a convertible BRZ out next year (2017) I have seen it in person" - Subaru dealership owner "This is the last year for these cars" - Several times by both "The 2017 facelift will be hybrid" - Toyota "The second gen of both will be hybrid" - Both "The second gen 86 will have a Toyota engine" - Toyota And my very favourite: "Who did you have paint the car green and do the custom interior on your 86? Hakone edition? Never heard of it." - Sales manager and 2 salesmen Toyota. Salespeople as a whole don't know nor care about the back stories about what they sell. Why should they really? Does everybody really think that they know everything going on in the background of their jobs?
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01-12-2023, 12:27 PM | #18 | |
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For the last part, I think, personally, that knowing about the moving parts of your job helps to build better relationships with customers and will probably bring in more because of word-of-mouth reviews. I absolutely sucked at selling the additional insurance at Enterprise. But I sure knew about how to meet the specific needs of a customer that was looking for a vacation rental, or was looking for one to test drive without having to deal with a dealer. It became also helpful when helping those who had their car totaled and were wondering on what car to buy. I always had returning customers or people that came as a referral. Same thing with my detailing business, some people appreciated my input on how to further keep their car cleaned, DIY, or the why I choose certain products. I understand that some folks are just trying to make a sale, earn a paycheck, etc. So why would they have to care or even mention about things like, say, reliability issues. As long as it sells and I can deposit my check, hey, all is fair. But, personally, I would've never in good conscience, no matter how much I needed the money, persuaded a customer to buy something like a Chrysler 200. I would send them to the Toyota dealer across the street and told them about how much better another car could be. Wouldn't had lasted more than a week.
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Your detailing business is also not a good example. It is a passion for you not just a job. If you hired some random guy off the street to dry the cars they would not have near the knowledge (if any) of the products. You only know because they are part of your passion. Most people do NOT have a passion for things they sell and only know enough to answer some very basic questions.
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Even our little small company I have stuff where I am stuck buying up to 4 years of items like custom circuit boards, custom motors, ect.
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The tricky part that most don't understand is the whole "just in time" supply system. People picture an Amazon type setup with big warehouses ready to send parts to the assembly plants. That would be a great way for a company to go broke fast. The contract says that they want X number of parts to be delivered to the lines just as they are needed. The parts companies make and ship those parts based upon schedules made months in advance. Any hiccup in the assembly plant will cause a trickle down of issues that goes right back to the mining of the raw materials. We see on this (and any car forum) people that think that the cars are somehow made on the fly with the companies having the ability to increase or decrease volume at a whim. This is a very wrong picture of how it works. There are literally thousands of companies involved in making the parts that go into a car and they can not all be turned on and off like a switch.
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This rumor is so stupid it's not even worth wasting effort with a Google search. The twins aren't going anywhere.
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I'd trust a facebook group to have more accurate information about the future of a product than the fucking dealer.
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I see what you're saying. I was just trying to make a more personal preference on how I do things. For example, if I was a salesperson, I would like to know as much as I can about the product so that I can provide the best possible solution to the customer. Which, as I inferred, I would've been horrible at because I would tell them not to a buy a certain car, if I was to work at a certain dealership. But I completely agree that it not necessary to know, nor it is realistic to expect it.
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Our Windsor subassembly plant has just 40 minutes for providing the suspension modules for the minivans. When a minivan hits the assembly line they broadcast the VIN to our plant. The whole suspension assembly is made to that VIN, placed on a rack in sequence with 5 others, put on a truck and delivered to the assembly plant line just as that vehicle hits the point where it is bolted on. There is no way to build ahead or have any ready as they are actually stamped with the VIN as they are made.
The rotors we make in the other plant will come in as raw castings, be machined, coated, delivered and on a vehicle within 36 hours. The only ones that sit for more than a few hours are service parts and even then we get screamed at for having to much money tied up in "inventory". Nothing is sitting around in a warehouse ever.
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Personally I would hate trying to sell cars to "enthusiasts" as they may be dumb as a stump but think they know all because they read it on Facebook or Instagram. We see it here every day!
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Is there something wrong with me, am I another reason for a ban?
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