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RZNT4R · 12-15-2022, 09:26 PM

With the car stuck at a reticent dealership there's not much to be said other than get it out or wait.

They've got a DTC and what seems like, from a basic search, pretty simple instructions. I can't think it's anything other than they have their heads up their asses. I WISH I had had a DTC on the dead dodge ram I had to deal with the other day, no ACC, no RUN, no START, completely dead ignition and the modules that were alive were saying everything was fine. If I can fix that, anyone can probably fix yours, your car just seems to be stuck at the one place that doesn't give enough of a fuk to actually diagnose it.

Tcoat · 12-16-2022, 09:21 AM

The question that has not been asked yet is:

Is the car completely stock? I mean completely untouched or altered in any way.

NoHaveMSG · 12-16-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RZNT4R

They've got a DTC and what seems like, from a basic search, pretty simple instructions.

Well I missed the mark on that one

I couldn't find that code in the service manual, only online when I searched it.

blsfrs · 12-16-2022, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nixsin

It does nothing. Literally, NOTHING. I tried EVERYTHING. It is an electrical failure.

When you say "nothing". No dash lights?? Do other electrical things work? Radio, wipers?
Found this too, https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144186
This too, https://www.google.com/search?q=trou...id:C9BFheYAqWo

Needs translation.

alphasaur · 12-16-2022, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs

When you say "nothing". No dash lights?? Do other electrical things work? Radio, wipers?
Found this too, https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144186
This too, https://www.google.com/search?q=trou...id:C9BFheYAqWo

Needs translation.

language translator of the video description says urdu, which is spoken in pakistan it appears. I would try reddit to see if anyone can translate it.

In the video comments it seems like the smart key was part of the solution.

Ultramaroon · 12-16-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Well I missed the mark on that one

I couldn't find that code in the service manual, only online when I searched it.

For some reason, that section is omitted from our community-provided manuals for MY 2015 and beyond.

B2782 for MY2014

soundman98 · 12-16-2022, 06:33 PM

have you tried turning it off and back on again?

have you tried hitting it with a hammer?

NoHaveMSG · 12-16-2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

For some reason, that section is omitted from our community-provided manuals for MY 2015 and beyond.

B2782 for MY2014

ahh, dunno how I missed it still.

Looks way less daunting reading that.

Ultramaroon · 12-16-2022, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

ahh, dunno how I missed it still.

Looks way less daunting reading that.

It's really buried. Steering>Steering Column>Steering Lock System.

Yeah! There must be more to this. Procedure seems way too straightforward for the techs to be fumbling so badly.

soundman98 · 12-16-2022, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

It's really buried. Steering>Steering Column>Steering Lock System.

Yeah! There must be more to this. Procedure seems way too straightforward for the techs to be fumbling so badly.

you'd be surprised.

my brother did buyback/lemon-law fiats and alfa romeo's for a while. most of the time, he had them fixed within a day or two, and then took the next week to verify the fix corrected the problem.

RZNT4R · 12-16-2022, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Procedure seems way too straightforward for the techs to be fumbling so badly.

Never underestimate the ability to fumble.

Back when I had tight valves on my '17 in brought it to toyota stating explicitly it was for a check engine with P219A and P119F. After the fumble I reviewed the dashcam footage and saw the dealer tech test driving the car and for an ABS concern... These cars have a picky network and connecting a scan tool sometimes throws an ABS light and some communication codes, the poor guy was trying to figure THAT out. After foregoing the ABS, they eventually decided the check engine was caused by my completely stock intake, because it was a 2017 6MT, they thought the red manifold was aftermarket and so were quite unwilling to look further into the issue until I told them, in gleeful laughter over the phone, to go pop the hood on another 17+ manual.

At that moment they had had the car for a day and the extent of their diagnostic was: test drive car for ABS concern, drive it into the shop, pop hood, look puzzled, have service manager call me about the intake. I saw it all on my dashcam, until they disconnected it, which is bad manners IMO, I have never disconnected a customer's dash cam.

Ultramaroon · 12-16-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RZNT4R

Never underestimate the ability to fumble.

I take some shit from @Tcoat about my hardcore diy, but I have yet to meet anyone I really trust to lay wrenches even on my appliances. I've worked in service my whole life. I've SEEN things, man!

PulsarBeeerz · 12-16-2022, 10:35 PM

My BRZ does that from time to time. Just jiggle the steering wheel off the column locks and it starts right up for me at least.

x808drifter · 12-16-2022, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

have you tried turning it off and back on again?

have you tried hitting it with a hammer?

And then a bigger hammer?

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12-15-2022, 09:26 PM	#15
RZNT4R Professional Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 2017 86 6MT Oceanic Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 789 Thanks: 17 Thanked 633 Times in 371 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	With the car stuck at a reticent dealership there's not much to be said other than get it out or wait. They've got a DTC and what seems like, from a basic search, pretty simple instructions. I can't think it's anything other than they have their heads up their asses. I WISH I had had a DTC on the dead dodge ram I had to deal with the other day, no ACC, no RUN, no START, completely dead ignition and the modules that were alive were saying everything was fine. If I can fix that, anyone can probably fix yours, your car just seems to be stuck at the one place that doesn't give enough of a fuk to actually diagnose it.

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