FT86Motorsports Turbo Kit Review

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Such a lazy copy they couldn't even remove the GReddy logo from the casting.

That's because they use GReddy intercooler piping, would you rather them do extra work to lie to their consumers by removing the logo?

You're digging extra hard for literally no reason, maybe stick to selling modified versions of existing parts, talking about copying and being lazy lol. The irony. Get off my positive review if you have nothing of relevance to contribute.

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Zoom in on the picture. The charge pipe straight up says GReddy.

It's an intercooler pipe.

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

I've had the opposite experience. I've been buying from them 4 years now and nothing but good things to say. Chatted about products on fb for literally hours. I ordered a set of wheels and they ended up being back ordered with no ETA. So I asked if I could switch to another set, one that also happened to be $100 cheaper. When I asked for their Paypal to transfer the difference, they said 'don't worry about it', which is awesome. Just once they didn't have the colour of the part I ordered, so they got in touch with me and asked if it's okay to send out the other colour, which I didn't care about. That would be the only minor thing to happen in 4 years and multiple thousands spent. Also if you do happen to get the genuine kit, it's more likely to be thousands more expensive, not hundreds, although I do agree that genuine products should be purchased to support the manufacturers. But the semi-local support of this kit definitely has me thinking about it.

The kit is amazing, and as CSG Mike mentioned, it uses GReddy intercooler piping, so it's got quality parts for a great price. Thanks for pointing that out Mike, the kit is better than I thought

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by scottryan

It's an intercooler pipe.

Charge pipe just means it is on the pressure side. So yes, intercooler pipe.

I doubt Greddy sold them those, they are likely backdoor parts made and sold by the plant that cast it for Greddy. I know there was something like this going around before with other parts. This happened to my company once when one of our tire manufactures went out of business and our mold got picked up and knock offs were being made by another company. We were even unknowingly warrantying these for a while. As a small business this was devastating.

Taking a dig like that at CSG is pretty lame. They partnered with part manufacturers to make something to their spec. Not even the same thing. Going to say the same about RCE? Their stuff is just KW made to their spec.

You bought something from a company that used a shortcut and made a kit with knockoff parts. It is what it is, nothing more to really argue. If you were happy with it then good for you. Defending it is pointless though.

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Charge pipe just means it is on the pressure side. So yes, intercooler pipe.

I doubt Greddy sold them those, they are likely backdoor parts made and sold by the plant that cast it for Greddy. I know there was something like this going around before with other parts. This happened to my company once when one of our tire manufactures went out of business and our mold got picked up and knock offs were being made by another company. We were even unknowingly warrantying these for a while. As a small business this was devastating.

Taking a dig like that at CSG is pretty lame. They partnered with part manufacturers to make something to their spec. Not even the same thing. Going to say the same about RCE? Their stuff is just KW made to their spec.

You bought something from a company that used a shortcut and made a kit with knockoff parts. It is what it is, nothing more to really argue. If you were happy with it then good for you. Defending it is pointless though.

Excuse me? I posted a positive review on a kit that is perfectly fine quality, with name brand parts, and CSG decides to show up and shit on my nice review of the product? But you tell me it's lame to take a dig at them? Take a step back and look at the picture, I wasn't bothering anyone with my review, I was making a review because I was extremely satisfied with the product and after sale support. Tell me what shortcut they used? They make all their hot-side parts in-house to drive the cost down and save Canadian owners on duties and shipping. If CSG boy wants to come here for whatever personal issues he has with the company and try to pick apart my review, I should be allowed to respond accordingly, so don't call it lame for taking a dig at them.

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by bucketfoot

I fully agree on not buying knock-offs, but Mike please tell me how buying used is any better? You are cannibalizing a sale from the original manufacturer either way.

In your example, I understand that the real Craftsman no longer exists today, but if they did your buying used tools instead of new (just because they are cheaper) isn't really any better... is it?

Mike simply has a personal issue with the maker of the kit and wants to stir the pot in this post, nothing he's said has any basis. He's bashing them for "copying" a kit, but purposely leaves out SBD and JDL for also copying GReddy, he's selectively pointing blame to make a point out of a very shitty basis.

Doesn't CSG take Tein coilovers and sell them as "CSG Spec"? How hypocritical

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by scottryan

Excuse me? I posted a positive review on a kit that is perfectly fine quality, with name brand parts, and CSG decides to show up and shit on my nice review of the product? But you tell me it's lame to take a dig at them? Take a step back and look at the picture, I wasn't bothering anyone with my review, I was making a review because I was extremely satisfied with the product and after sale support. Tell me what shortcut they used? They make all their hot-side parts in-house to drive the cost down and save Canadian owners on duties and shipping. If CSG boy wants to come here for whatever personal issues he has with the company and try to pick apart my review, I should be allowed to respond accordingly, so don't call it lame for taking a dig at them.

How positive of a review thread this turned out to be. You should become an influencer.

We really need to paint a picture of what shortcut was used?

What I call lame was this. If you want to go at them on other things, have at it. But this is pretty lame argument.

maybe stick to selling modified versions of existing parts, talking about copying and being lazy lol.

Doesn't CSG take Tein coilovers and sell them as "CSG Spec"? How hypocritical

They worked with Tien to improve Tien's product based on tons of track data that Tien doesn't have, had a new revision made, and exclusively sell it. They are getting it from Tien, so they are still getting theirs for the work the put into it. That is a lot different then getting backdoor parts, cutting the original designer out, and selling it as part of your kit. Like I said above, go after RCE too then while you are at it. Or how bout 949 since they are working with Xida.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by scottryan

Mike simply has a personal issue with the maker of the kit and wants to stir the pot in this post, nothing he's said has any basis. He's bashing them for "copying" a kit, but purposely leaves out SBD and JDL for also copying GReddy, he's selectively pointing blame to make a point out of a very shitty basis.

Doesn't CSG take Tein coilovers and sell them as "CSG Spec"? How hypocritical

Let's get some facts straight.

SBD is a blatent copy with many critical components replaced with cheaper parts.

JDL is a bespoke kit, fully welded by hand, in Arizona.

Tein produces the CSG Spec Flex A for CSG, with a completely different internal spec.

Do you see the difference?

[Calum]

Originally Posted by scottryan

Mike simply has a personal issue with the maker of the kit and wants to stir the pot in this post, nothing he's said has any basis. He's bashing them for "copying" a kit, but purposely leaves out SBD and JDL for also copying GReddy, he's selectively pointing blame to make a point out of a very shitty basis.



Doesn't CSG take Tein coilovers and sell them as "CSG Spec"? How hypocritical

SBD is a blatant copy of the same kit that ops company copied.

JDL is all hand made in house and amazing quality. There's a JDL part about 6 inches from me right now, under the floor of my car. (I'm stopped in a parking lot)

CSG worked with Tein to develop coilovers using Tein parts but CSG's specs for damping curves and spring rates. RCE did the same with KW. That's a hell of a long way from copying parts.

[saltywetman]

Isn't Greddy a Japanese company? I didn't know they were an American company based outside Irvine

[TheBoss77]

What a rollercoaster ride this thread is. I was looking at the kit earlier today, thought it was a damn good deal. In the world where everyone copies everyone and some replicas are almost indistinguishable from the original it's hard to know what you're getting.



Bottom line, is this kit high quality or is this a cheap replica that will blow up and take the engine along with it?

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by saltywetman

Isn't Greddy a Japanese company? I didn't know they were an American company based outside Irvine

Trust is the Japanese brand name. Greddy is the American branch

[saltywetman]

I thought GReddy is pretty much the north american branding their products because Trust Company name was taken over here IIRC. I always thought all Trust products were developed and manufactured overseas. Didn't know they did any manufacturing of their products over in the US

[scottryan]

Originally Posted by TheBoss77

What a rollercoaster ride this thread is. I was looking at the kit earlier today, thought it was a damn good deal. In the world where everyone copies everyone and some replicas are almost indistinguishable from the original it's hard to know what you're getting.



Bottom line, is this kit high quality or is this a cheap replica that will blow up and take the engine along with it?

Fine quality, 2 of their shop cars on Stage 2 IAG blocks make 450WHP with the kit, @Alx_BRZ on IG makes 400WHP on the kit, mine made 310WHP at 12.5psi on the kit, all 4 cars have been running 100%, no issues, for over 2 years.

Apologies for the children that bombarded the post.