Power needed to keep up with a Sti/ evo

[Kakawate]

I'm at 260 and I keep up with sti's and modified wrx's no problem.

[Simon99]

Originally Posted by Kakawate

I'm at 260 and I keep up with sti's and modified wrx's no problem.

You got a build thread ?

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[jflogerzi]

Also you have to remember with SC's depending on what type, they may not be what your looking for. Turbo's are difficult to keep cool when pushed in this car. Twin Screw SC's give you nice down low TQ numbers, but kits like the Jackson kit acted more like a larger displacement V6 with peak power and TQ being made at the higher end of the RPM range making it suited for track duty. Turbo would be your best bet, but you need the supporting mods to things work correctly.

[Kakawate]

Originally Posted by Simon99

You got a build thread ?

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=49508&page=4

[BRZfan]

If you need to "...keep up with an STI", GET AN STI! --- THEN power up.

Originally Posted by red1993sol

Hey guys not sure where to post this at but I used to own a 06 Sti on a cobb stage 2 tune and loved the power and torque it had. Well I've had the brz for awhile now and looking to bump the power up knowing I'll supercharge it or turbo it. This would be straight line power also as I know the brz corners better already. Been looking at the kraftwerks kit but my question is how much power would I need to be in the same ball park to a stock/ lightly modded Sti or evo. Wasn't sure if there has been a thread on this but I couldn't find anything directly. Any input is greatly appreciated !!

[red1993sol]

Originally Posted by BRZfan

If you need to "...keep up with an STI", GET AN STI! --- THEN power up.

Had one already if I wanted a Sti I would of kept it but that's not what I wanted to do.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by ALbadboy

Yes I suppose it would make a difference from a dig, but if you're going to get into that you'd also start throwing in other factors like tires. If I was OP and this was my goal, I'd shoot for 240-250whp and wider sticky tires.

OP was talking a stage 2 (TBE and protune + supporting mods) STI, which with a good tuner can get close to or meet 300 AWHP.

So, us, probably 275 RWHP to match that. Except here's the kicker: we'll be getting power much earlier (STI's and WRX's don't make those power curves till the turbo kicks in at 8+ psi, which is 3500 rpm at the earliest), and making it longer (stock turbo WRXs and STIs have turbos which do NOT build power all the way to redline in stock configuration). So, they may have AWD capability and bigger peak, but we'll have better power to weight and area under the curve.

Just don't blow your tranny (b/c unlike STIs, our transmissions aren't darn-near bulletproof).

[Pneub]

I'm at 250whp and can keep up with STIs just fine. Probably somewhere in the 230-250 range needed. You'll get smoked off the line though.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Pneub

I'm at 250whp and can keep up with STIs just fine. Probably somewhere in the 230-250 range needed. You'll get smoked off the line though.

Who cares if you catch up to them and pass .

[Pneub]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

Who cares if you catch up to them and pass .

Well I don't really get to do that often. I've actually never dragged against anyone. My only experience is just in canyon runs and we just keep in line. But I have no problem keeping up with an STI the whole time. I just know that 250 seems to do the trick.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Pneub

Well I don't really get to do that often. I've actually never dragged against anyone. My only experience is just in canyon runs and we just keep in line. But I have no problem keeping up with an STI the whole time. I just know that 250 seems to do the trick.

You've got better handling, lighter weight, and a car that tends towards oversteer, so getting the nose pointed around the corner and hauling the ass end around is much easier and faster. Plus, the STI when it dips into the low revs in the curves (unless it executes a really good downshift), will have to climb a hard mountain to boost, while you putter away building linear power at 12.5:1.

It's not just pure power to weight, as those power numbers are peak, and tell you nothing about how the power is made. STI's and WRXs generally make their peak hp around 5500 and peak torque around 5000. A SC'd or NA 86 just keeps building power and torque through the entire band... well, except for the innovate SC.

For canyon carving, provided equivalent peak power to weight between the 86 and STI and provided appropriate tires for the 86 commensurate with its power level, it should have the clear edge over the STI provided equal drivers.

Basically, I believe you and it doesn't surprise me either (and pleases me immensely) that boosted and under 300whp our cars still can match or out match stage 2 (TBE + protune) STIs.

[JS + BRZ]

So, what's the prize of making your 86 to keep up with STi in a straightline on the road?

Faster grocery shopping I guess?

[tahdizzle]

I think its to get to the gas station quicker when you're low on push'a'line.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

So, what's the prize of making your 86 to keep up with STi in a straightline on the road?

Faster grocery shopping I guess?

So he doesn't slow you down when you drift through the corners