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Old 01-21-2022, 10:04 AM   #729
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I think he is just saying that both sides have a sending unit. But plans on adding a sec pump in the other basket.
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That just looks like a pair of baskets with two fuel level sensors, and one has a fuel pump and the other has a line, but with only two wires going to the passenger basket for the level sensor, it doesnít appear to have its own crossover pump. You are saying there is a secondary pump?
Pictured is the OEM configuration. Left is the fuel basket, right is a sender assembly. You can see there is a fuel level sender on both sides.
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There is a sender on the fuel basket on the driver side as well as on the passenger side tank. I only know since I am working on running two fuel baskets with two pumps and I have an extra basket on my bench.

Are you going to "T" them or have the secondary pump into the primary basket?
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:28 PM   #732
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Are you going to "T" them or have the secondary pump into the primary basket?
Feed the primary. I figured it would be simpler.
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Old 01-21-2022, 02:58 PM   #733
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Pictured is the OEM configuration. Left is the fuel basket, right is a sender assembly. You can see there is a fuel level sender on both sides.
Sorry. I rushed and didnít read what you quoted, so I missed the context.
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Old 01-23-2022, 01:23 AM   #734
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There is a sender on the fuel basket on the driver side as well as on the passenger side tank. I only know since I am working on running two fuel baskets with two pumps and I have an extra basket on my bench.

You have to think of it as two tanks since at about 3/4 tank fuel will not flow between them , factory has a jet pump to pump fuel to left hand side.

The problem I was having is the basket emptied then the acceleration was keeping the fuel in the back of the tank and the baskets in the front.
Now i have two pumps slid in the back of the tank with a return system and a radium jet pump to transfer fuel over the hump.

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You have to think of it as two tanks since at about 3/4 tank fuel will not flow between them , factory has a jet pump to pump fuel to left hand side.

The problem I was having is the basket emptied then the acceleration was keeping the fuel in the back of the tank and the baskets in the front.
Now i have two pumps slid in the back of the tank with a return system and a radium jet pump to transfer fuel over the hump.
Do you have any pics or write up on this?
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Old 01-23-2022, 01:15 PM   #736
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Finally got my Haltech and wiring package last night! One step closer.
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Do you have any pics or write up on this?
My setup is more for straight line acceleration, around 1/4 tank I start loosing pressure in corners.
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I got the car started. All I did was calibrate the sensors and actuators. They still need scaling in the tables. For instance, the flex fuel sensor seemed to be working, but there wasn’t a basic fuel correction table that already had inputs. The 4 bar map sensor and injectors were manually entered. I used the GM IAT sensor calibration from their menu. I was paying more attention to burping the coolant and checking for leaks that I didn’t have much time to go over the data. It idled.

I’m not really a fan of the ESP software. I’ll need to convert to NSP eventually and see if it is more intuitive. I think it is hard going from modern products from Apple or Google to these type of products that are unnecessarily confusing and that seem best for people already familiar with the previous product or that are tuners. Just saying.

Everything I have touched seems to be working, except I have this warning that I can’t seem to figure out, and I also don’t seem to have the driver’s seat warmer working, or maybe just the switch didn’t light up. I haven’t actually seen if the seat still gets warm.

Also FWIW, I spoke to Kpower, and they said the stock tune should be a well-vetted, strong tune. They said they spent a long time on it, so it isn’t some conservative tune just to get people to a dyno.
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Does anyone else have that warning triangle/exclamation?
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Does anyone else have that warning triangle/exclamation?
Pretty sure itís normal.
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Mine is always illuminated. Never saw a way to shut it off.
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Does your driver’s butt warmer work?
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