First clear look at GR86 / BRZ prototype during testing

[gg1978]

It's been interesting to see these leaked pics.. I realize a new generation of Twin is going to have to be different in some ways to attract more buyers, but so far i am liking the cosmetics of the old model better so far. The new one does look nice however.. Granted the final sheetmetal could still be up in the air, but i think i miss the more prominent wheel bulges the most. I think the newer more resembles an cross of a Twin and the S13 front end.


As for the FA24, i am suspecting the >7000 RPM redline is a thing of the past, if the true torque peak of FA24 is 5500 RPM, and it shows typical N/A torque behavior beyond that. I'm guessing a 6500 to 6700 RPM redline for the 220 HP number if torque rolls off to 170 lbft by that RPM..

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by gg1978

As for the FA24, i am suspecting the >7000 RPM redline is a thing of the past, if the true torque peak of FA24 is 5500 RPM, and it shows typical N/A torque behavior beyond that. I'm guessing a 6500 to 6700 RPM redline for the 220 HP number if torque rolls off to 170 lbft by that RPM..

The >7000 RPM redline should still be there and in theory could go higher. The FA24 is a wider bore of the FA20 and not stroke. Being an over-square design and having the new beehive valve springs that are smaller at the top, wider in the middle, and smaller on the bottom making them stronger, which helps handle more pressure and higher revs apparently.

A higher revving N/A motor would be pretty exciting but I guess we‘ll still have to wait and see.

[gg1978]

Heh, it's just a guesstimation, but i suspect they shifted peak torque down in rev band, since people love to bitch so much about the dip in the previous motor. And 170/175 lb foot at higher RPM's would be more like 240/250 HP level..

I hope it's high revving, tbh, but will see in any event

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

-Dash looks flat, i dont see a tablet stuck onto the top of it, just the gauge cluster hood.

Just because there's not one in the spy shots, doesn't mean there won't be one in production.
Whether it's up top or below, bet it will be a bigger screen and have all the connected app features

[mrg666]

What if it is still FA20D with increased 8500 rpm redline and 230hp?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by mrg666

What if it is still FA20D with increased 8500 rpm redline and 230hp?

Not with modern emissions standards. The head already doesn’t flow well past 7k anyway.

[Coaster]

If it uses TNGA platform does that mean its manufactured by toyota plants?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Coaster

If it uses TNGA platform does that mean its manufactured by toyota plants?

It doesn’t.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by mrg666

What if it is still FA20D with increased 8500 rpm redline and 230hp?

They would have to do pretty extensive changes to support that RPM. Mostly lubrication.

[Lantanafrs2]

I wouldn't trust a high revving Subaru motor. Mine lost a rocker leaving a stoplight

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I wouldn't trust a high revving Subaru motor. Mine lost a rocker leaving a stoplight

I lost a engine from ejecting a rocker too. It was in between a 3-4 shift at redline though.

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[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by burnt_toast

If you draw a construction line on both, the new model seems to lose that and if you look at the renders from bestcar, they've actually broken up that surface and there is an additional line just below the c-pillar.

Between the swirls and the padding, the entire side profile looks like a shapless blob. We can't see any of the lines.





Given the accuracy of the Bestcar render, it is safe to assume there are hips on both the front and rear wheels, but we can't see them. I'm not sure about that extra line on the rear fender. It might be an artist mistake.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by burnt_toast

One thing I really love about the outgoing model is when you look in the side mirrors and see them hips. Now, they're no 911 hips, but it's just a very strong line both head on and from the profile.

If you draw a construction line on both, the new model seems to lose that and if you look at the renders from bestcar, they've actually broken up that surface and there is an additional line just below the c-pillar.

This is just my personal opinion, but I'm happy to see that they got rid of the butt ugly triangular form in the 4th brake light for a more trapezoidal element. I really don't have much to nitpick about my 2017 other than that crab/owl face that I always see when I look at the rear of the car.

Still excited to see the reveal though. I've been lurking here in the background for a few years and now I finally decide to join in on the fun when there's a new model on the horizon haha.

Nice to meet you all!

Is it just me or is the rear wheel a larger diameter?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Yeah I don’t see that extra line on the test car either. I’m hoping the camo is messing with us (kind of its job lol) and preventing us from seeing the prominence of the hips. I would be sad too if the hips were drastically reduced.