Got my first ticket...

[Impureclient]

I'm not advocating to break the law but the reality of it is we all will bend them slightly or break them and the laws are written so we do and they can count on that revenue
with red light cameras being the pinnacle source for that theory. Arguing that traffic laws are created for our safety can also be called asinine when certain facts are given.

Further proof of my nutty opinion: http://www.popsugar.com/love/Removin...-Sense-1739759

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

I'm not advocating to break the law but the reality of it is we all will bend them slightly or break them and the laws are written so we do and they can count on that revenue
with red light cameras being the pinnacle source for that theory. Arguing that traffic laws are created for our safety can also be called asinine when certain facts are given.

Further proof of my nutty opinion: http://www.popsugar.com/love/Removin...-Sense-1739759

Drivers there are also better than drivers in North America. And yeah, ok. Traffic tickets are a source of revenue. Just like sales tax, income tax and property tax. Your point is? What would you rather have, get a ticket for a rolling stop, or have your license revoked for X amount of days? I'll take the fine, since if I can't drive, I don't have a job.

I'll throw this out there too. You could run for your next municipal election and abolish all traffic laws. But that's a lot of work, so you probably won't do it. You'd rather sit behind a key board and bitch and moan about "this city did it! Why can't we?" Than get out there and have your voice heard

[Impureclient]

That's too much work, I want the bitching and moaning thing. I also just got a good radar detector and keep my head on a swivel for the popo and so far so good.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

the white border thing is a myth. Everywhere. A stop sign means stop regardless of what border it has. If they don't mean stop it is a yield sign. The white border is just a new type of higher visability sign and eventually they will all be changed to that style.

I know it was supposed to be a joke...it was to me at least

[SquadRogue]

You are in denial

[WNDSRFR]

Thanks everyone for their suggestions and opinions. One thing I am not going to consider is getting a lawyer. I bought a Scion not a Porsche. Right now I have zero points on my license so it’s not about points. It’s about money and principle. There is no doubt that I am guilty. There is also no doubt that at least 90% of the general public is also guilty of running this very stop sign. And I realize that just because everyone breaks the law doesn’t make it right.

But still. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I admit I’ve done some things I deserved to get a ticket for. But I think that this case is just bullshit. There is absolutely no doubt this was for revenue generation. It certainly had nothing to do with public safety. It’s kind of like driving through town at three o’clock in the morning. You are the ONLY car on the road and the light turns red. Is there really a point in staying stopped at the light other than the fear of the police in hiding waiting for you to “break the law”?

Anyway I have 30 days to decide what to do. I think my next move is going to be:
Setup my camera on a tripod in the position where the cop was and record video until either I record THE cop doing the same thing I did or run out of battery. I’ll wear one of those bright yellow shirts so it looks like I an a surveyor and nobody will notice me.
I’ll have to wait till tomorrow to do it because this is a road to the beach. So it has a lot more traffic on the weekends. On weekdays (like when I got my ticket) there’s only maybe one car going though the intersection every five minutes.

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

Thanks everyone for their suggestions and opinions. One thing I am not going to consider is getting a lawyer. I bought a Scion not a Porsche. Right now I have zero points on my license so it’s not about points. It’s about money and principle. There is no doubt that I am guilty. There is also no doubt that at least 90% of the general public is also guilty of running this very stop sign. And I realize that just because everyone breaks the law doesn’t make it right.

But still. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I admit I’ve done some things I deserved to get a ticket for. But I think that this case is just bullshit. There is absolutely no doubt this was for revenue generation. It certainly had nothing to do with public safety. It’s kind of like driving through town at three o’clock in the morning. You are the ONLY car on the road and the light turns red. Is there really a point in staying stopped at the light other than the fear of the police in hiding waiting for you to “break the law”?

Anyway I have 30 days to decide what to do. I think my next move is going to be:
Setup my camera on a tripod in the position where the cop was and record video until either I record THE cop doing the same thing I did or run out of battery. I’ll wear one of those bright yellow shirts so it looks like I an a surveyor and nobody will notice me.
I’ll have to wait till tomorrow to do it because this is a road to the beach. So it has a lot more traffic on the weekends. On weekdays (like when I got my ticket) there’s only maybe one car going though the intersection every five minutes.

So if everyone was jumping off a cliff, you'd do it too? Because that's literally the reasoning you have for rolling this stop. You were in the wrong and got caught. Simply bad luck.

I'm out of this topic after this post. I still can't wrap my head around this.

[Brndn704]

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

Thanks everyone for their suggestions and opinions. One thing I am not going to consider is getting a lawyer. I bought a Scion not a Porsche. Right now I have zero points on my license so it’s not about points. It’s about money and principle. There is no doubt that I am guilty. There is also no doubt that at least 90% of the general public is also guilty of running this very stop sign. And I realize that just because everyone breaks the law doesn’t make it right.

But still. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I admit I’ve done some things I deserved to get a ticket for. But I think that this case is just bullshit. There is absolutely no doubt this was for revenue generation. It certainly had nothing to do with public safety. It’s kind of like driving through town at three o’clock in the morning. You are the ONLY car on the road and the light turns red. Is there really a point in staying stopped at the light other than the fear of the police in hiding waiting for you to “break the law”?

Anyway I have 30 days to decide what to do. I think my next move is going to be:
Setup my camera on a tripod in the position where the cop was and record video until either I record THE cop doing the same thing I did or run out of battery. I’ll wear one of those bright yellow shirts so it looks like I an a surveyor and nobody will notice me.
I’ll have to wait till tomorrow to do it because this is a road to the beach. So it has a lot more traffic on the weekends. On weekdays (like when I got my ticket) there’s only maybe one car going though the intersection every five minutes.

So you're complaining about the cop waiting for you to break the law, but you're going to try and wait and catch him break the law?

Yup, I'm done with this forum now.

[ajaxthebetter]

OP: the baiting worked for someone I know. They got a big ticket for their back tire barely touching the line on a handicapped parking spot. One week later he saw a cop with both their tires on the line of the same spot, took a picture, and presented it as evidence.

Judge threw the case out. If you have time and energy, it may be a viable thing to do.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by ajaxthebetter

OP: the baiting worked for someone I know. They got a big ticket for their back tire barely touching the line on a handicapped parking spot. One week later he saw a cop with both their tires on the line of the same spot, took a picture, and presented it as evidence.

Judge threw the case out. If you have time and energy, it may be a viable thing to do.

Personally, I'd feel that paying the fine would just be easier from a time and money stand point than fighting it.

[driftguy]

Ran stop sign. Admits it and states he's guilty. Still thinks it's "bullshit". I know people half your age that aren't that dumb.

[Packofcrows]

$200 is cheap. Pay it bro.

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by driftguy

Ran stop sign. Admits it and states he's guilty. Still thinks it's "bullshit". I know people half your age that aren't that dumb.

Maybe I should screen shot all of his posts and send them to his local police department.

[ntron1]

Suck it up sunshine. Do the crime, Do the time.....